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Old 08-25-2008, 03:03 PM   #1
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fedora software updater... what happened to yum?


I have Fedora 9/KDE 4.0.5 and have used yum to get the latest updates!

Now some mysterious "software update" system is updating!

For example: One morning I woke up and I got a new kernel all of a sudden!
2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686

I have looked everywhere to find a dialog to shut off this software updater!

Once such a dialog appeared and I selected NOT to make updates.

This didn't help!

I have found (logged in as root) settings->software updates dialog where I set everything to "do nothing"

I looked in system services and yumupdatesd or yum-updatesd does not appear!

I did find this out!

ps -ef|grep -i package
root 15885 1 0 13:55 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/packagekitd
landon4 15891 2711 0 13:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep -i package
[landon4@localhost Timer]$

so something is running!

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Old 08-25-2008, 04:00 PM   #2
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packagekitd is actually used in adjacent to yum and invoked when a tool or utility is run by a user.

Are you sure on a previous update you didn't download and install a newer kernel and then saw the changes on a reboot? By default, Fedora will update the kernel unless specified not to and the changes won't take affect til after a reboot.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 04:49 PM   #3
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I always watch yum run but I could have missed an event

Thanks!

under settings->software updates I found a dialog that set "update" settings for some facility I've never heard of!

I suspect this sneaked in about 2-4 weeks ago! I noticed something running this morning!



I have set everything to do nothing so I'll see what happens!

I have had empty yum updates for a while now!

I did do the script:
yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache
yum update
 
Old 09-02-2008, 12:55 AM   #4
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still yum update yields nothing

I brought up the software updates dialog and set updates to
all updates/hourly/notify

perhaps the package kit "add on" changed everything

______________________________________________________________
Is anybody getting yum updates in the last 2 weeks???

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Old 09-02-2008, 12:57 PM   #5
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finally the answer...yum is down

great mailing list:

fedora-list@redhat.com

On 02/09/2008, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:

> When and how did the intrusion occur? How was it initially detected?

*shrug*

I don't actually need to know, so I'm not making a fuss.

I suspect, as has been hinted at here multiple times, there may be
legal reasons why they haven't provided you with some of the details
you would like to see.

I'd suggest re-reading the announcement that Paul W. Frields sent out
(url below) and then, should you really, really feel the need to know
more, I'd suggest you contact whoever at the Fedora Project you pay
for support, complaining about your SLA not being met ;o)

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedor.../msg00012.html

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Old 09-02-2008, 02:08 PM   #6
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Well, no, yum is not "down." If you look at the dates on those posts, you'll notice that they were written some time ago, and that they say updates were halted while the security breach to RHEL was investigated. There was, as far as they could determine, no security breach to Fedora.

On the other hand, the project has not posted any updates for a week or so, so I suspect that RH is doing a through review of the whole distribution process.

What you were originally asking about was the package kit (new in F9) that automatically calls yum to install any updates it finds. As you found, there is a control panel that lets you specify how and when the package kit runs.
 
Old 09-02-2008, 02:27 PM   #7
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these are not posts...it is a mailing list

"‎fedora list‎"‎ <fedora-list@redhat.com>

these are current emails stating problems with mirror sites

and stating yum is not ready!
 
Old 09-02-2008, 02:42 PM   #8
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email just in from that mailing list:

Re: When will Yum updates be working again?‏
From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com on behalf of Alan Evans (ame.fedora@gmail.com)
Medium riskYou may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Tue 9/02/08 1:35 PM
Reply-to: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. (fedora-list@redhat.com)
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. (fedora-list@redhat.com)

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Bill Crawford
<billcrawford1970@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/09/2008, Timothy Murphy <gayleard@eircom.net> wrote:
>> Bill Crawford wrote:
>>
>>>> I would say it has been asked but not answered, many times.
>>>
>>> It's been answered, just not with a specific time, which is obviously
>>> what everyone wants, but ... "sometime" is still an answer.
>>
>> You are easily satisfied.
>> If you asked what time the plane leaves,
>> and you were told "Sometime",
>> would you find that a completely acceptable answer?
>
> I might accept "the plane won't be leaving for a while because we have
> discovered a serious fault, and the engineers have to manually check
> each and every seat and oxygen mask for it before we can announce it
> may depart". It might not make me happy, but it's an answer.

I guess that the problem with "sometime" is not so much that it's not
specific enough, but that it's not specific *at* *all*. OK fine, my
plane wont leave on time -- should I go get a room or do you expect it
to leave soon enough that I should just stay put?

Does anybody in the know have any idea whatsoever about when updates
might again start flowing? Will it be in the next day or two, or
should we all just cool our jets until October?

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Old 09-02-2008, 03:37 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by landonmkelsey View Post
"‎fedora list‎"‎ <fedora-list@redhat.com>

these are current emails stating problems with mirror sites

and stating yum is not ready!
FYI: Many people refer to entries in a mailing list as a "post" or "posting" since the entries, when "posted," become available for perusal by anyone accessing the list host site.
 
  


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