This may be a note that is worth something to someone, as I may have gotten lucky.
Case scenario, relatively new ThinkPad E14 4th Gen
CPU: 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
Kernel: 6.1.0-37-amd64 x86_64
Mem: 4753.0/38924.2 MiB
Storage: 3.68 TiB 2 different 2TiB drives, dual drive dual boot through grub, Windows 11 with LMDE 6 as the primary OS.

Recent system freezing, no crash reports, a few times with Track Point still operational, but progressed to no means of navigation while frozen.

Nothing I had found through research was concise to my specific problem.

I investigated potential kernel issues and flunked with a terminal auto-remove.
Then carried forward with a grub kernel selection boot and Timeshift point saved prior to the freezing date, which brought the system back to operational state.
The freezing problem still persisted in LMDE 6 and I don't use Win enough to know if it would freeze.

Dismantled Netbook, reseated any and all electrical connections possible yet the freezing continued.

Without rhyme or reason other then not wanting to reconfigure LMDE 6 as I like it I went through the Win Update Reinstall process, then updated Win 11.
The freezing of LMDE 6 has stopped happening for just about 24 hours now.

Previous run time durations were intermittent prior to freezing, from near immediate freeze on boot to a few hours.

I'm not going to try and anaylize or speculate the cause or how valid this cure has been but all seems to be stable again.

Duplicate post: see https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...20#post6578120

Duplicate posting violates LQ rules.

FYI the thread in the laptop and netbook forum has been closed.

I didn't see that this had posted, or I wouldn't have made the second post.
Edit, no luck.
This morning the Netbook went into a sound loop skipping like an old vinyl record and couldn't be navigated.
Presently running Win 11 to potentially eliminate software.

Hi,
Sometimes the Mod Control panel awaits approval from the forum Mod.

So, among all these various threads, have we described a reproducible solution to this apparently-confusing issue? For the benefit of the next poor soul who is confronted with it?

That would explain the first effort at my post not showing, not so much the second.

The sarcasm is quagmire thick in all respects up in here!

Being I had searched both my username and titled post with no thread shown in response to the search effort, I made a second post in Laptops and Netbooks. This was far from any effort to spam the forums or any such mischievousness.
Given the longer duration of time until the system did freeze again, I was with the idea the issue had been solved, but it hasn't.

Another hardware reseat effort yesterday morning, with the Netbook left to idle afterwards on autoplay YouTube videos overnight found the Netbook frozen up again very early this morning.

Immediately after hard shut down and restart, Cinnamon 6.4.8 reported "You are currently running in fallback mode". This did generate a system report.
I'd guess an association is likely, although my technical level far from equates to my long history with Linux.

Being this is a non-technical forum area, this no longer seems apropos here. Suggestions?

I can tell you as a mod sometimes it can be a problem with the Mod Control Panel and even lack of the mod immediately checking email for awaiting mod attention or just checking the panel. Most of the mods do have a life and do mod as volunteers.

Got it. Thanks!

This is not a non-technical forum area. The thread is fine here (but would also be fine in Laptop and Netbooks section).


As it stands, the subject of this thread is unhelpful - thread titles should tell people what the thread is about, especially if they are a someone with a similar issue. Your current subject has zero pieces of useful information to such a person - someone running Linux Mint on a ThinkPad E14 experiencing lockups has no reason to look at your thread, whether they presently have that issue or had it in the past and found a solution. Editing the first post allows you to fix that.

In addition, the first post is difficult to decipher - flowery verbiage doesn't help when describing or diagnosing problems.


As for your actual issue... so far we know you have a ThinkPad that crashes - no indication of whether it remains locked up (requiring a reboot) or eventually comes back on its own - though your subsequent post points towards the former.

And you've unsuccessfully tried some things:
* You may or not have had a kernel issue, and/or caused one by trying something, or ?
* You restored a backup, suggesting it's not a recent Mint change.
* You've re-seated multiple unidentified hardware connections. (What specifically? Did you clean dust from fans and vents?)
* You've upgraded Windows (which will never fix any Linux issues).


You have not yet left Windows running to see if the lockup appears there (and if so, increase the likelihood of this being hardware-related).

You have not mentioned temperatures - again, how dusty was the interior? How hot is the room(s) the laptop is in?

Try running sensors in a terminal. (I don't know if Mint has that installed by default or not.) If there's anything odd, include the output inside [code]..[/code] tags. Ideally you'd run it immediately before a lockup, but having an idea of normal running temperatures is also useful.

Confirm whether it's the whole machine that locks up or just the current session - try switching ttys with Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2, Ctrl-Alt-F7 - if it switches, you can kill the bad session and continue, and it's probably a Linux issue.

Also try the "Magic System Request Key" R-E-I-S-U-B sequence - i.e. after it locks up, trying press Alt-SysRq-R, then wait a moment, then try Alt-SysRq-E, then I,S,U,B and it should reboot. (If it doesn't work, it's more likely a hardware problem; reboot as normal.)

I'm happy to hear your opinion that this thread is fine here, I only read the hypertext bullet in the main forum listings.

" General (13 Viewing)
This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun! NOTE: All new threads will be moderated. Political threads will not be approved."

I'll look elsewhere for some help,
Thank you!

This thread is not in "General", it is in "Linux - General".

As per the description at the top of the current page: