Morning cascade9:

Thanx for replying. I understand about ripping and formatting audio. And I see what your saying about going directly to a lossless format, then converting back to mp3, if I so desire. The quarrel I got into with 273 just din't need to be. If he prefers mp3's, then so be it. However, it's not his position to try to dictate what I want/should do concerning the formats I choose.Yes, your right, it's borderline "gameplaying" with the definitions and our interpretations. I've not used "ruby", and quite frankly, never heard of it. I'm using "SoundJuicer", and for now, it seems to be all I need. As far as SoundKonveter is concerned, IF I NEED it, then I'll use it. But ripping the CD to the format I prefer seems to be the thing to do..at this point. Thanks for the tip. Personally, I've/we've beat this issue to death and I, for one, prefer to move on.

I'm still taking issue with the amount of time it's taking to download or install any program. It was purposed I'd gotten an inferior 'mirror" when I downloaded 12.04 O.S. I wasn't aware of downloading a "mirror". I went to Ubuntu.org, to their 'download O.S." and selected the 12.04 86xamd64. Now, could that be a "mirror"? And if so, would it have encoded such a poor "program"? Should the answer be "possibly" or even "yes", then I shall go get the CD, wipe my HDD, and install from that CD. I'd believe the CD right from Ubuntu would have all the "proper" programs? That fair to say? I'm open to ANYONE's thoughts/suggestions on this matter.
TAKE CARE:
RICK

To explain what I meant about you possibly having a slow mirror in your sources.list:
There is a file in /etc/apt/ called sources.list which contains a list of URLs for repositories from which software is downloaded when you use the software centre or apt-get or aptitude from the command line to install programs. In order to have the best experience it is usually better that these point to server in one's home country (not always but let's not complicate things) so that the servers are nearer and there aer less "hops" for the data to go through which could cause bottlenecks. I am no longer sure if and when these are chosen during the Ubuntu install process but if you can post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list we can at least confirm whether you're pointing to a server that should be in the US or one that's in Serbia and likely ot cause problems.
I am, not saying the above is the issue but it's worth checking.
It could also simply be that your internet connection is slow but, then, I don't know what kind of internet connection you have and what you are paying for speed wise.

As to music formats, I don't prefer MP3 which is why I would never convert from MP3 to FLAC. I think you'll find my point has always been that you cannot get back the original data upon which an MP3 file is based by transcoding the MP3 file.

Well, I dodnt make the comment about ripping to lossless then to MP3s, that was suicidaleggroll.

I dont think that 273 was trying to 'dictate' what you should be doing..273 was just pointing out that converting a MP3 to any lossless format is just going to waste space, and will not be any better quality.

'Ruby' is a programming language.

https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_%2...ng_language%29

Rubyripper is a ripper built using the ruby programmign language.

*elitist hat on*.

Soundjuicer is just another frontend (GUI) for CDparanoia. Rubyripper uses CDparanoia as well, but it has various improvements, like custom secure ripping algorithm, and 2 pass ripping. Which really helps, the 2 pass ripping in particular....there is always a chance that you'll get some bad data from any single CD read. If you do 2 pass ripping, it rips the tracks twice, than compares them. If the rips do not match, there is a problem.

Rubyripper is designed to have many of the same advantages as EAC (Exact Audio Copy) whicd is IMO the best ripping program around, and many 'scene/P2P' sites/groups/networks (etc.) demand EAC or sometimes Rubyripper or dBpoweramp.

While people can say what they like about P2P, many of the people involved know what they are doing, and there are very good reasons for using EAC or Rubyripper.

It doesnt matter which mirror you d/l ubuntu from (provided that you didnt go to some dodgy site and get a cracked copy with a rootkit).

The 'mirror' issue in this case is where you are d/ling the software from, not the initial .iso. When you type 'apt-get install XXXX' ubuntu goes to the software repositories ('repos') listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list.

If your /etc/apt/sources.list is pointing toward a repo in another country, it can be a lot slower than a local repo.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...es/CommandLine

A cute little sources list generator for ubuntu-

http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/

*edit- too slow, beaten by 273.

To: 273

OK, for the last time, GET OVER YOUSELF!! I've asked you to drop this line many times now, so, now, let me be condescending. I don't CARE for your ignorant and arrogant responces. Perhaps it's YOU who should educate yourself on different audio formats and their properties. I don't care for your insistance that I play only mp3's. I WILL do as I damn well please without regard to your petty and childish whinning about mp3's. Just because it lists me as a 'newbie", don't think you have an innocent child on your hands. I'm a "newbie" only to this site, NOT to all aspects of the computer. And, besides yourself, who deems you a 'pro"/geek? Now, drop all correspondence concerning ANYTHING to do with audio!! I said many times to you "MOVE ON"!!

My concern, now, is over the extended amount of time it takes to download from "net", or to "install" a program. As I was unaware the distro download had inheirent issues? I ask, would the CD of the distro contain the same? Someone asked for a printout of a particular queary and I'll post that soon. In this "report what should I be looking for and concerned with? I also wonder if I could've inadvertently caused this particular problem when downloading or installing a program improperly? Are there settings within the laptop that I could/should tweak? As far as the WiFi i.s.p., I am aware that one WiFi "spot" in particular has notorious service issues, yet 2 of the other 'spots" were regarded highly!? So, I really don't know what the proper answer to that question would be.

I will no longer be entertaining responses about audio formats!!! If you wish to comment on the 'slowness" issues, I welcome your comments-suggestions. KEEP ALL COMMENTS CONCERNING AUDIO TO YOURSELF-Thank You!!
Take Care:
Rick

To: trickykid:

I appreciate your response. I will keep your advice in mind. THANK YOU for responding. If you wish to comment on the 'slowness" issue my laptop is having, I welcome your thoughts.
THANX:
Rick

To; suicidaleggroll:

Thank You for that comment. I understand it completely. The only reason I ever had audio formats in mp3's was due to the "ripper" I used. Mp3 was it's default setting(for some odd reason). As soon as I realized this, I found/switched to a different "ripper". However, that still left me with a certain amount of music already in mp3 format that I'll have to re-rip. Thus, my cause for "SoundKonverter"! Yes, it would be prudent just to "rip" in desired format to begin with. If you've read my post about the 'slowness" issues with my laptop, would you care to comment?
THANX:
Rick

69Rixter: You have responses from both myself and cascade9 regarding a possible cause of software downloads being slow.
If you're using WiFi hotspots though it could just be that they are slow. Since you don't state what you consider slow it's difficult to know though.

To All Concerned:

This is what I consider far too long in downloading/installing. When downloading 12.04 from Ubuntu.org, it took 40 mins. When I installed O.S.and restricted extras,--1hr.37 mins. Since then, when I installed SoundKonverter, --little less than 13 mins. I know this should not take this amount of time...why do I know that? When I first installed 10.04 and subsequent pkgs, I was really impressed with the procedure and it's speed/time of install. I see no reason that 12.04 should take so long. Now, I'm aware 14.04 is ready. It might be awhile, if ever, that I take a chance on it. I really liked 10.04 and have not had the same level of performance/satisfaction with any of the subsequent distros. So, you say, go back to 10.04. I might, or I just might explore other LINUX distros. Right now, what I want is to find a 'fix" answer to the laptops slowness. PLEASE...keep comments directed at fixes or suggestions concerning said slownness issue. THANK YOU [12.04 64bit--HP 2000-210US 64bit]
TAKE CARE:
RICK

*edit-

You cant just guess that something should be fast because it appears to be small and/or simple. Soundkonverter is a KDE program. IIRC there is very little to zero KDE in ubuntu 12.04, so when you apt-get soundkonverter is has to get a lot of KDE libaries.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/soundkonverter

That is not a small d/l, and its going to take time.

Do you mean 'slowness getting pacakges'? That might be just fine, you really should check how much data you are d/ling and the rate its d/ling at. I cant remember if 'software centre' shows you that, I know synaptic does.

If you mean 'slowness in general opertation', then ubuntu isnt what you are looking for. Its never been that quick, and since the move to the 'unity' DE its got slower.

No, 14.04 is not ready. Unless you want to be a beta tester.

No, you cant go back to 10.04. Well, you can, but its a bad idea, its no longer supported, there _will_ be security issues.

I think that last comment @ 273 is misapplied...273 has said pretty much nothing about music formats after post #13 (where 273 apologised for the tone used). Apart from stating 'I don't prefer MP3' in post #17.

The last big post on audio formats and ripping was from me.....and I'm not going to apologise. It also appears that my typing was wasted.