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Old 06-22-2007, 09:41 PM   #1
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Arrow Compiling & Optimizing Slackware DETOUR ---> Hardware Failure

For those souls who have been interested, so helpful, and otherwise following along with my thread about recompiling and optimizing Slackware, located here:
..this is a temporary detour from the last page of that thread; here I'll keep you posted while I continue to troubleshoot my half-dead computer..

I replaced the power supply and the memory today, to no avail. As mentioned previously, the video card works fine in the other machine here.
Currently everything in the machine is disconnected except the CPU, and I've had that out too.
Since the machine 'died' I have turned it on let's say 100 times, trying to get it to power up properly:

ONCE - I got to the BIOS, configured it, and when I saved and rebooted it was dead again.
SEVERAL times - I got the thing to turn on without the video card and beep 8 times telling me there is no video card; when I put the card in and rebooted, it was back to dead again.
THE REST of the time - it powers up (lights/fans/drives) but the diagnostic-bracket (MSI D-Bracket) shows 4 red lights, apparently meaning the CPU is missing or toasted, and if the video card IS installed, the monitor does not turn on/so no POST..

So.. It's weird how it will 'on occasion' seem to POST properly. That kinda wants me to think the CPU isn't gone; however, at the same time, I'm suspecting some piece of the motherboard is baked, if it isn't the CPU. Either way, it looks like I'm in need of a CPU/motherboard, which I won't be picking up any time in the immediate future.

The machine is an MSI-6580 845PE Max V2.0 Intel P4 1.8 GHz w/ nVidia GeForce MX440 AGP8x card, 1x 1GB ram, & lots of cute restless penguins fearing for their habitat.

Any suggestions, ideas, tests to try, from you guys and girls are always appreciated meanwhile, but it looks like I'm stuck on this Winbloze machine for the time being -- BOO HOO!
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Have you looked down the agp slot to see if anything is unusual about the pins, had one that somehow managed to vibrate off to the side once. If they look fine then I would tend to agree that its prolly a mb problem.
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If you added hardware recently I'd check the power-supply (is
it strong enough to cater for all things in the box?).

Also, since the machine isn't a spring chicken ... loosen and
refasten all easily accessible connectors, check them for dust
and/or signs of corrosion.

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Have you tried replacing the motherboard? It's a fact of life that computer equipment fails after a certain amount of time, some components such as power supplies and mainboards fail earlier than others. I have never seen or heard of a processor die from heat before but this might the first such occasion :-(.

On the other hand I had a Pentium IV laptop here a few months ago that I used for testing Slackware and Gentoo. I have to say that the laptop was running very hot when compiling software to the point where it shut down automatically. That's why I've never been interested in Pentium IVs at all, in fact I have avoided them like the plague and of course never bought or built a system containing one :-)

I hope you can solve your hardware problem with as few expenses as necessary and you can continue Slacking as soon as possible.

BTW I did the same thing as you two years ago, but I optimised Slackware 10.1 for AMD Athlon. I have been able to reuse much of the knowledge gained from that experience for porting Slackware Current (leading to 12.0) to MIPS (on the Loongson processor). And I am involved with contributions to and testing of Armedslack.
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I likewise would tend to think the mobo is the culprit. If you've got a spare box or a friend with a mobo with the same socket type as your CPU, you can test whether the CPU is OK by temporarily installing it into that other machine. Good luck with it
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OK, thanks for the input there folks.. Unfortunately, I haven't access to a similar enough machine to test my processor and/or swap boards.
The power supply is new, but works no better/worse/differently than the old one. Other than that, no other hardware had been added lately that may have contributed to the failure.
Officially, I am in the market for a new motherboard/CPU combo, and will shortly link this thread to a POLL, seeking your opinions of the 3 major board brands I am strongly leaning towards.
See ya soon.

POLL link:

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