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dr_zayus69 12-16-2004 11:39 PM

Can linux get you a computer cheaper?
 
I've been using linux since the summer when my microsoft os crashed and have grown to like it a lot more. Im curious to know if anyone was able to buy a computer without a MS os already on it cheaper and then put linux on it? I don't know how much they factor into the price for the OS but i wouldn't want to pay more for a computer with a shoddy mircosoft os.

MylesCLin 12-16-2004 11:45 PM

Go to pricewatch, look into pcs - no os

Zuggy 12-17-2004 04:36 AM

Check this out from Wal-Mart. You can get a PC with Xandros installed for as little as $200. Also looking at the specs of the $318, if you add some more ram and a cheap graphics card (geforce FX 5200 for $80 it has Apg) you could install Unreal Tournament 2004. The $318 and up models come with Xandros 2.5 Deluxe which has Crossover Office, which is a cleaner version of WINE so if you needed to install a Windows program you could.

PS Unreal Tournament will run natively on Linux.

oneandoneis2 12-17-2004 05:33 AM

Well, the simple answer is yes: The hardware will be cheaper than the same hardware + OS costs.

But it's never that easy, as it's perfectly possible to pay for Linux - look at Red Hat. Okay, you're paying for support rather than software, but it's still a cost.

Myself, I just ordered components and built it myself. In theory, that should be the cheapest option. But the temptation to get higher-quality components with more features is so hard to resist :)

slackist 12-17-2004 07:40 AM

Here in Thailand many comps are available at different prices depending on whether you want an OS pre-installed or not.

The choices are usually no OS, DOS, or Win XP home or pro

IIRC XP home adds circa 200 US$ to the price.

Sadly most people who buy a machine with no OS seem to just install a pirated copy of Win but now machines with localised versions of linux are on the market for the same price as the no OS machines which hopefully will cause a rise in linux boxen here.

I saved money by buying an IBM laptop with no OS:cool:

mark

Lleb_KCir 12-17-2004 11:57 AM

sadly most major manufactures will not sell (in the US) a system without an OS and all the fees that go along with it.

Dell, HP/Compq, Toshiba, Pansonic none of them sell OS free systems, at least last time i called each of them (last year durring the summer) they would not.

i do not know if this is still true, but it used to be that if you got a mass built system like the above mentioned and did not want windows on the system you could ship the unopened windows CD back to M$ and get a full OEM refund for the OS.

so you could get roughly $105-155 back depending on the OS the system came with and how much M$ was/is willing to pay for it.

like several others i just build my own systems now and put what ever OS i need/want on them. only time i buy M$ is when a customer requests it and is willing to pay for it.

dr_zayus69 12-17-2004 12:23 PM

well that is decent enough cuz with that 100-150 i could get another harddrive or more ram

jabberwock486 12-18-2004 01:05 PM

why not build your own system?
Also try asking around at local shops that build them for you. A shop around here will subyract $100 from the sale if you state you do not want windows. most systems start out around $399 (without OS) and up.

Zuggy 12-18-2004 04:25 PM

I found a company called Sub300.com. They sell computers running Linux starting at $222. I'm thinking about (when I get the money) on buying their $999 laptop. It's an Asus A2, but has Linux instead of Windows. The default Linux is Linspire but if you feel like something else you can have them put on: Mankdrake, Fedora, Knoppix (might just be the live CD), Debian, Gentoo, Slackware, Xandros, FreeBSD or SuSE.

I found out about them from this article I found on Linux.org. I haven't read the article yet so if there's any bad stuff about the company in it don't blame me.

J.W. 12-19-2004 12:29 AM

Roll your own from components you purchase from your favorite vendor. Try this experiment: Choose a system from Dell, and make of note of the computer's technical specs. Then do a price check on the individual components from a reputable dealer, such as NewEgg Pretty much for any given set of technical specs, the pre-built system will be 50%-100% higher than the home-grown one, plus the prebuilt will include the so-called Microsoft tax as well.

Honestly I would encourage you to look into putting your own system together. Not only will it save you money (alternatively for the same money you get get a better system) plus if you've never done it before, you'll learn something. Up until I actually decided to build my own system, I was always vaguely nervous anytime I opened up the PC case, because I was worried I might break something. After building my own, you realize that there are only about 8 or 9 actual "parts" to putting a system together, and that it actually isn't all that big a deal. Good luck with it either way -- J.W.

egag 12-19-2004 12:34 PM

well...i build my own pc. and put Slackware on it ......saved me about 500$ .
but all things i learned are worth much more....

windows puts up a wall between you and the hw. ; with a self-made linux-box you're the "boss" of the pc.

egag

puppy 12-21-2004 06:14 AM

Only
 
problem I can see is that if you're a gamer you're quite limited in your choices - Doom3 emulated in Wine? Probably, but at about 2fps I imagine :eek:

linux-rulz 12-21-2004 07:04 AM

Quote:

problem I can see is that if you're a gamer you're quite limited in your choices - Doom3 emulated in Wine? Probably, but at about 2fps I imagine
Ever heard of WineX/Cedega???

AxeZ 12-21-2004 07:43 AM

Re: Only
 
Quote:

Originally posted by puppy
problem I can see is that if you're a gamer you're quite limited in your choices - Doom3 emulated in Wine? Probably, but at about 2fps I imagine :eek:

ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux


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