I've got knoppix on cd that loads and seems to have all necessary files, etc. The problem is that I cant get onto the internet....I get message "AN error occured while loading ( url) Unknown host (url)"

I think problem arises because I am on a small home network thrua Belkin router ....my ethernet is an onboard Realtec 8201BL, and my connection to INet thru a Wesatell DSL modem. Is there anything I can do to get access?

Make sure that there is a module loaded for the NIC. Look at the output of lsmod to see if you can see one. If you don't know which one is the NIC driver then post the output here. If there is a driver then look at the output of ifconfig. See if there is an "eth0" section. If there isn't then do an ifconfig eth0 up | <IP address>. This assumes static IP. If you have dynamic, then ditch the IP address from the previous command and then do a dhclient eth0.

On the menu bar at the bottom of the screen select the KDE button that is a K superimposed over a gear.

Select:

KNOPPIX -> Network/Internet -> Network card configuration

if you use a static IP address through your router. If you're using DHCP I believe you would select ADSL/PPPOE configuration rather than Network card configuration. I am not certain. At any rate, KNOPPIX is setup so that you can do that from the menu system and not from a console. You can also read the file that comes up when you load the CD, and it will either give you help or direct you where to get more help.

What adz posted will also work, but it's much simplier to use the menu system for KNOPPIX if you know your IP address and gateway.

Chinaman, when I try your suggestion I get message "No working ethernet card could be found". Would like to try ADZ method but really dont know HOW! Can anyone help?

You must do what adz stated from a console. Look at the bottom of your screen and there is an icon that looks like a monitor with a shell on top of it. Click on that and follow his instructions. If it doesn't work with the $ prompt, just type su and do it as root from a # prompt.

Also you need to read the file that comes up in a window when you boot the CD. Just click on the language that you need (EN for English) and read in there. Go to the FAQ page and I think there's more information.

It looks as if KNOPPIX has not detected your nic, and I don't know if there's anything you can do. If it were installed to the hd you could recompile the kernel and get support for your nic, but with the CD you'll have to read the help files. There's also a KNOPPIX forum at http://www.knoppix.net/forum and while it's not as extensive as LQ, there may already be a post there concerning your KNOPPIX specific issue. And search here using Knoppix as your search string and also the name of your nic. Read the posts and you may find something.

Sorry I can't be of more specific help. Perhaps a more qualified veteran will come your way.

Once you've tried those commands in the konsole, if it doesn't work, post any errors here.

OK ADZ: nothing under ismod
ifconfig: Link encap: Local Loopback
Inet address:127.0.0.0
Mask: 255.0.0.0
Up loop running MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX Packets: 4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
(This rtepeated 3x)

ifconfig etho up|<141.158.108.104>
bash: syntax error near unexpected token'newline'

Dont know what it is, but thats what it is....rt

It's not ISMOD but LSMOD (in lower case, though). Then in ifconfig there are sections. You will notice they're called something like "lo", "pppX" or "ethX" where X is a number (usually zero). You're looking for at least ONE "ethX" section. If there is one then the card is up and running. The ifconfig etho up|<141.158.108.104> has some problems (what kind of address is that?????). Firstly, you weren't meant to put in the "<" and ">" characters (sorry if I wasn't clear on that). Secondly, leave spaces either side of the pipe ("|") char. Thirdly, if that still doesn't work then try leaving off the pipe altogether. In fact, I seem to recall the pipe being unnecessary.

One other thing, you said you've got DSL. Is the modem DIRECTLY connected to your computer (ie you box has a network card and the modem is connected to that card)? If that's the case then most of them work as mini dhcp servers. So all you should need to do is make sure the module is loaded, then ifconfig eth0 up and then dhclient eth0.

I believe that's a static address with Verizon Internet Services VZ-DSLDIAL.
I wonder if he could check if that chipset is supported under Knoppix. What is the make and model of your motherboard?

Which version of Knoppix are you running rt? I think there's a file on the CD to tell you what packages are installed, and maybe you can check the config file for the kernel. I have the CD's for Knoppix v3.2 from July and 2 of the v3.3 CD's. Post which version and date you're running and I'll try to check that.

Chinaman: Motherboard is Abit NF7-S version 2
Knoppix is Version 3.3 2003-9-22

No time this AM to retry ADZ info...will do later....thanks to you both for your help.....rt

RT,

Do
$ dmesg | grep eth
and post the output.

It will return something like this:
mingdao@paul:~$ dmesg | grep eth
eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95702A20) rev 1002 PHY(5703)] (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:e0:18:a3:33:b3
eth1: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xf8806000, 00:50:bf:6c:0d:a3, IRQ 255
eth1: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex.
tg3: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX.

This will tell us exactly what you have for a network adapter. The ABIT website doesn't list the chipset for your onboard LAN. And I've yet to find out what chipsets are supported under KNOPPIX. I looked in the config file for kernel 2.4.22-xfs and I do not see anything that looks like a Realtek 8201BL.

I don't know about the lsmod command. I have the 2 nics above and lsmod doesn't show either. They're not modules, so if yours doesn't show up there don't let it bother you - though you will have a lot of them with KNOPPIX.

Please also run
$ vi /etc/modules.conf
and see if you have an entry like this
alias eth0 nvnet
I believe from looking at the Nvidia site that this should be the net driver for your nforce 2 motherboard.

Did you try the KNOPPIX forum at http://www.knoppix.net/forum for some help? Those guys are specifically KNOPPIX users and whereas some of our Debian stuff is the same, KNOPPIX has tons of stuff built-in to the Live CD that I haven't installed in my Debian distro. Just looking at the kernel config file on my wife and daughter's comp made me ashamed that I haven't recompiled their kernel. I installed KNOPPIX to that hd, and it has support running for loads of hardware that they don't have.

Chinaman: $ dmesg | grep eth produces nothing
vi/etc/modules.conf produces a list of files, "Knopixx/, bin/, boot/, etc. Nothing similar to what you expected.

Yes, have been to the forum....find most obscure and lots for HD install, but nothing similar to my prob...will look again.

PS: I did find a long list of available drivers, none spec for me...tried some but usually get "install failed" message.....thanks, rt

That's bad news - means your nic is not installed. I'm not a computer hardware novice, just a *nix novice But I'd say that you won't be able to get online using the KNOPPIX CD since it doesn't seem to have support for your nic.

One other thing to do, which you've probably already done. Since you're obviously in your other OS, and I'm assuming it is some flavor of Windoze, look under device manager to see what it says for your nic. If you don't know how to do that, post back exactly what OS you're running and I'll tell you. One pointer - press the Windoze logo key and the Pause/Break key at the same time
Not to worry. Apparently you won't even get the same as if it's installed to your hd.
What I meant was for you to post your problem there as you have here. In LQ, we have no KNOPPIX specific forum. SInce you're running it from a Live CD, and not even installed on the hd, there's not much that can even be done. It's running in ram memory, so you can't change anything that will have a premanent effect. I just don't believe there are many of the really knowledgeable guys in LQ that respond a lot to KNOPPIX posts. If I'm wrong I hope to stand corrected, but I think you'd find more experience with KNOPPIX in their forum. I installed it on the hd of my wife and daughter's computer just to have a Linux distro running until I have enough time to install them either Debian, Slackware or Gentoo.
Where did you find that list of drivers?
How did you try them that gave you that "install failed" message?

And, did you try the other things that adz suggested? He probably knows a lot more than I about Debian.

NB: You're running an OS (KNOPPIX) that only exists on the CD and in ram memory. It cannot hurt your other system, and you cannot write to it, so go for it! Try anything!

Testimonial:
I will say this for KNOPPIX. A couple of months ago someone brought a lappy to me running Windoze eXPerience that was hosed (a typical Windoze experience from my experience ). Micro$loth had issued an update for one of their security bugs. When it was applied to his system, it basically hosed itself. At boot you'd get one error message with the only choice being OK, and a second more detailed error message with the only choice being Restart. Micro$loth's only answer was to boot and go into Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs and uninstall the patch. Which couldn't be done on his system, because it wouldn't boot - even in Safe Mode or with the CD.

So I stuck a KNOPPIX CD in the drive, booted the machine, mounted his hosed XP partition and backed up his data by uploading via dial-up to my ftp space (he had no floppy, CD-RW, or LAN to use on my network). Then I used Partition Magic to do what's best with Billy Gates demonic OS, and reinstalled for him. Also, I installed KNOPPIX so he can get used to Linux in a small way. Maybe he'll become a convert!

Chinaman:List came up with modues and files in mod_?__that came up when no ethernet card detected message appeared....Lots of ethernet drivers but none specific for me....tried one for SIS board (failed install) along wth several others....2 or 3 did install (looked generic) but produced no joy.

In Device Manager, 2 listings: 1)1394 Net Adapter with C:\windows\system32\drivers\nic1394.sys 2) NVidiadrivers=C:\windows\system32\drivers\jedih2x.bin

Am downloading Slackware right now, so cant go back into Knoppix for a while....thanks....rt

Yeah the stuff I suggested is fairly universal. Not debian specific. In other words, you're going o need that kind of stuff if you're going to use slack. No GUI setups there. On eother thing, I did a search at some point and if seemed to direct me to the nvidia drivers. Everything I said depends on getting some sort of drivers to begin with. At this link, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0261, you'll find the lastest driver. It should work if you've not got a kernel driver ready to go. You'll most likely need to compile it though.