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Old 03-22-2012, 11:44 PM   #1
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Can't Install Network Driver on Red Hat 9 (2.4.x)


Hi All,
I'm the one of Newbie in Linux. I installed RH9 (2.4.x) on my system , I knew that version is too old and can't expect any support at this time. But I must use this version, that's my situation. So Question is I don't know how to install driver . I knew a few things of Linux that is automatically detect and install hardware ,isn't? Now my system can't detect my NIC driver . I have driver file for my system "e100-3.5.14.tar.gz".
Please give me any instruction how can i install my driver?

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Old 03-23-2012, 04:50 AM   #2
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install in a VM environment
note
there will not be any wireless support in a VM

or
buy your self a computer dating from BEFORE 2000 / 2001
yes buy an 11/12 year old p4 computer with 512 meg to 1 gig of ram

rh9 ( died in 2003 ) will not even install on a newish computer
Will Microsoft Windows98 run on this computer
if NO then RH9 will not
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:30 AM   #3
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Thanks John VV for your reply. I know RH9 died last too many years ago. Now I asking is how can i install driver, I found compatible driver for my network adapter. I tried and searched from internet and I did as their instructions but i can't successful.

First I tried unzip 'tar file'
In instruction using "make install" but actually in my doing i can't run that command. It said directory can't find or something error message came out. So I don't know how to do and I'm really lack of Linux knowledge. That's why I beg any idea from this forum NOT derisive.

However I'm really appreciate your reply

Thanks and Regards
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:50 AM   #4
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Welcome to the forums prettykid!

Please step back for a moment and look at what you are asking. Red Hat is a commercial paid project. For $299/year they will give you the latest Red Hat and help answer all of your questions.

Instead of doing that, you are asking us to support a version of Red Hat that Red Hat themselves stopped supporting years ago, and to do so for free.

Furthermore rather than give us any relevant details to solve your question, you say "some error message came out." You are asking strangers to take time out of their day to volunteer to help you, but you can't be bothered to take 30 seconds to tell us what the actual error message is? How can we possibly help you??

I am not trying to be negative just for you to realize what you are asking here and maybe try a different tactic when asking for help.

I agree 100% with John VV's advice: If you are taking a class or something that requires you to use the outdated RH9, then you should use a virtual machine solution to install a RH9 "guest," complete your assignments, and then get rid of RH9 once you get an A in the class.

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Old 03-23-2012, 09:04 AM   #5
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Ok guys, Thanks You. I'm sorry for my speech.

Thanks and Regards
 
Old 03-23-2012, 09:15 AM   #6
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No need to apologize, we are nice people, we want to answer your question, but we can't do it, because you haven't told us what task you are trying to accomplish, why you think obsolete RH9 is the best tool for this task, what is the hardware you are trying to install on, what are the specific error messages, etc.

Do you see?
 
Old 03-23-2012, 09:37 AM   #7
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The problem is that given the age of RH9 it seems quite probable that any driver you found was not designed to work in such an old environment. As you note it is running a 2.4 kernel. Linux moved onto the 2.6 kernel around 2006 including the 3 versions of RHEL that have come out since then. (The last RHEL version to use 2.4 was RHEL 3 - RHEL = Redhat Enterprise Linux and it replaced the older RH linux in the commercial side where Fedora replaced it on the non-commercial side.) The 3.x kernel has now been released so it will get even muddier over time. The driver you got most likely was developed to work with the 2.6 kernel and would take a lot of effort to make compatible with 2.4.

There have also been many bug and security fixes over the years. If you're using an RH9 box you're ripe for hacking.

If the RH9 box is required for a class you are taking then you should really rethink the value of that class as it is NOT teaching you information that will be generally relevant to most employers these days. (Would you take a class on how to run a Commodore 64?)

If this is a running Production system that can't be replaced because of "the powers that be" you should:
1) Try to find a used/replacement NIC of the same time as the one you originally had so you don't need a driver on ebay or the like.
2) Immediately start campaigning to get the machine replaced with something newer because sooner or later it IS going to die eventually and you'll end up having to try to replace it as an emergency.
The original post suggesting you buy a 12 year old system is not that far off the mark.
 
Old 03-23-2012, 10:17 AM   #8
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Ok, accepting that you need to use RH9, you need to have the kernel headers and the compiler toolchain installed in order to create the driver module for your nic. Cut and paste the error messages you get when running make install, and we'll try to help.
 
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:05 PM   #9
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Perhaps you could tell us exactly why you need RH9? There was someone last year who made a similar post, but it turned out that he didn't need RH9 at all!
 
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I was giving prettykid the benefit of the doubt
 
Old 03-23-2012, 10:23 PM   #11
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Hi RockDoctor,DavidMcCann,MensaWater,snowpine and John VV

Let me say Thanks all of you in advance. I'm really appreciate it. Why i chose RH9 that is b'cos of only for testing. I got RH9 CD and I tried to install and faced driver problems. I really want to know how can i make to pass. OK, I'll show you when i typed 'make install' I found this..

make:*** No rule to make target 'install'.stop.

before i type 'make install',I installed 'rpm -i kernel-source-2.4.208' .

Thanks and Regards
 
Old 03-23-2012, 10:35 PM   #12
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Why i chose RH9 that is b'cos of only for testing
that is not a reason

one that IS used is this ( not good but dose happen)
" our company spent ??? thousands on this CLOSED source program and it ONLY works on..( fill in the blank).."

RH9 is SO OLD ( think of " windows98 " )
you would NOT install win98 to learn win7 64 bit

USE a supported AND CURRENT os
something like Ubuntu or Mint


as for solving your problem
for rh9
there is NO solution
that software was killed off in 2003
you will not be able to find the rh9 gcc compiler
nor the kernel header that was used
nor any of the development tools for the dead rh9 ,unless it is on the cd .
( well if you already know what you are doing then you might - slim chance )
and any NEW driver built for NEW hardware WILL NOT BUILD ON THAT OLD OF AN OS

install a supported OS

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Old 03-24-2012, 09:00 AM   #13
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@ prettykid:

Did you run ./configure before running make?

If you can't get RH9 to work for you, I've got a boxed set of Suse 8.1 Professional (7 CDs, a DVD, and manuals), I picked up a few (well, ok, more than a few) years ago at Best Buy for $0.01. Best bargain I ever got at BB. Anyway, I'm willing to part with it for the cost of shipping. The advantage of the Suse 8.1 Professional package is that everything you could possibly need to compile your kernel modules is present - it the module won't compile and/or work under it, there's no alternative but to upgrade to a more recent distro.
 
Old 03-26-2012, 09:26 AM   #14
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H Why i chose RH9 that is b'cos of only for testing. I got RH9 CD and I tried to install and faced driver problems. I really want to know how can i make to pass.
Testing on an ancient version isn't going to be relevant when you later want to do it on a newer version. Getting an install CD for newer versions isn't hard - you can freely download media for most distros and burn your own copy. If you don't have a burner you might try contacting your local Linux Users Group (LUG) as most Linux folks are willing to burn you a copy.

Since you're in the RH realm I'd suggest getting CentOS 6 to have the latest "stable" release. Alternatively if you're just doing this for testing and don't mind the idea that the version will be superseded in 6 months or so you can go bleeding edge with the latest Fedora version.
 
  


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