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Old 03-17-2007, 10:26 PM   #1
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Building a New computer and need help making sure things will co-exist plz help!


Motherboard: Asus P5W DH-Deluxe Wi-Fi Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / WiFi / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID / CrossFire Ready 229.99

CD/DVD Drive: Lite-On Super-Multi LH20A1H / 20x DVD±R Burn / 16x DVD±R Read / 8x DVD+RW / 6x DVD-RW / 8x DVD±R DL / 12x DVD-RAM / Internal / Black&Beige / DVD Burner with Lightscribe 49.99

Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive Black 19.99

Hard Drive: Hitachi / Deskstar T7K500 / 400GB / 8MB / ATA-133 / EIDE / OEM / Hard Drive 99.99

Video Card: EVGA GeForce 8800 GTX / 768MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card 539.99

Memory/Ram: OCZ Platinum Revision-2 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 x 1024MB) 164.99

Processor (CPU): Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Socket 775 / Processor with Fan 249.99

Case: NZXT Nemesis Elite Gaming Case-Black 109.99

Power Supply: OCZ / GameXStream / 700-Watt / ATX / 120mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready / EPS / Active PFC / Power Supply 134.99

Accessory: SilverStone 5.25" Aluminum Fan and Temperature Controller – Black 37.99

OCZ Ultra 5+ Silver Thermal Compound 5.99

Nexus Anti-Vibration PC Mounting Kit 19.99

Insulating Washer 48 Pack 1.08

Ultra Antistatic Wrist Strap 5.99

Ultra 23.5 x 23.5-in Antistatic Mat – Black 19.99

Power Supply Rubber Silencer – Clear 6.99

Cooling/Fans: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Fan For Intel CPU 18.50

Zalman ZM-47J Northbridge Chipset Heatsink 7.99

Cooler Master / Hyper L3 / Socket 775 / Heat Pipe Intel Core 2 Duo CPU Cooling Fan 34.99

ZEROtherm / CF900 / Socket 775 / Copper Base / Heatpipes / CPU Cooler 39.99

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Upgrade Serv. Pack 2 99.99 (i found linux is actually a little cheaper and it sounds like its awsome so can u tell me some features of it? plz)

also and sugestions for changes, adding, and taking things off thks
 
Old 03-18-2007, 07:15 AM   #2
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"linux is actually a little cheaper"

linux is FREE!!! It is not "a little cheaper" it is "a LOT cheaper" than M$ products.

You CAN pay for Linux if you want to get premade CDs/DVDs but you do not HAVE to pay for Linux. You can download it and burn your own media. If you don't have a way to burn your own you can check to see if there is a Linux User's Group (LUG) in your area as Linux geeks are often willing to burn them for you.
 
Old 03-18-2007, 09:43 AM   #3
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thks i think im going to try linux i have been a windows fan for a while but linux sounds alot better what about the computer is that ok? im a big gamer
 
Old 03-18-2007, 10:56 AM   #4
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Just to warn you as I have built several Linux boxes from scratch with new hardware and old hardware. Note:

ASUS motherboards are great! HOWEVER, out of the 4 ASUS motherboards I have used, only 1 of the motherboard detected the onboard NIC using Ubuntu 6.06/6.10 and CentOS. Maybe other distros will pick it up, but the other 3 Linux was not able to detect it. I just went out and bought a cheap $15 PCI NIC.

If I were you, I would save up a little more and get the Core 2 Duo E6600. It's got 4MB cache. The E6400 only has 2MB cache and that WILL limit your processor. SAVE UP!

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Old 03-18-2007, 02:42 PM   #5
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ya i was going to get a K1 (but after looking at some bad reviews ill find a little cheaper one) and thks guys glad for the help
 
Old 03-18-2007, 06:02 PM   #6
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Here's a brief description of my own system:

Intel Core 2 Duo 6600
2 x 1 GB Corsair Twinx PC6400
ASUS P5B
ATI X1600
2x Western Digital 250GB SATA II
1x Samsung Spintpoint 500GB SATA II
SB Audigy soundcard
NEC Floppy drive
Antec NSK case 380W
Arctic Freezer 7
Promise Sata 300 TX2plus SATA IDE card
NEC DVDRW + NEC CDRW

OS: Debian Etch (x86), Suse 10.2 (x86_64), Ubuntu 6.10 (x86), Fedora Core 6(x86_64), PCLinuxOS 2007(x86), Sabayon (x86_64), Mandriva 2007.1 Cooker (x86_64), Solaris 10 (x86_64), XP64

Looks more or less like what you have in mind (remark about the GPU below)

I have been using this system for eight months now and I'm really happy with it. Getting it to work last year, however, was an absolute nightmare. Back then, there was no support for the onboard NIC, for the JMicron IDE controller and SATA support was a highly uncertain thing. Things have got better over the last months and now both the JMicron and the NIC are properly detected. Neither am I experiencing the sort of issues with SATA that others are reporting. As long as you stick with a very recent distribution, I think you shouldn't have any problems, or only minor at worst.

I would like to warn you about the video card, however. I have not checked recently, but not so long ago there were many reporting serious compatibility issues with that Nvidia card; basically, there weren't any (decent) Linux drivers available yet so people had to resort to reinstalling their old card or using VESA mode (kind of sad for such an expensive card).

On another note, I wonder why you should decide to get a PATA disk at this time. PATA is very much a thing of the past and it is completely being displaced by SATA. Also, if you're new to Linux and you'd like to dual-boot, I would recommend getting two smaller disks instead of a single big one (I started out with 2x250). That way, you can safely leave each OS on its own disk; if you know what you're doing, that's not necessary but do you? Also, two disks is better to make back-ups: if you make backups on the same disk and it goes down, what good are your they? The disk is dead anyway...

Also wonder about all the cooling stuff in there. Do you think you'll really need it? Core 2 Duos run really cool after all (unless you intend to go for some major overclocking).

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Old 03-18-2007, 07:25 PM   #7
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what do u mean by the pata disk?
 
Old 03-18-2007, 07:32 PM   #8
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he means this:
Hard Drive: Hitachi / Deskstar T7K500 / 400GB / 8MB / ATA-133 / EIDE / OEM / Hard Drive 99.99

a serial ATA (SATA) drive will be faster, and simpler to install(no master/slave, just plug it in). edit: also, the cables for a SATA drive will impede airflow in your case much much less than ATA ribbon cables.

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Old 03-18-2007, 08:12 PM   #9
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Yes, lurko is right. A SATA (=serial ATA) disk looks perfectly like a PATA(=parallel ATA); the only difference is the sort of cable(s) used: PATA disks have these broad ribbon cables while SATA disks have cables that are not even half and inch wide. So you see why SATA allows for better air flow. And yes, they do generally offer better performance, although that is not necessarily the case: I happen to have a 250 GB Maxtor Diamond 10 PATA disk as well (one of the faster PATA disks) and that is just as fast as the SATA disks. I could go into the technical details but I'll just say that you need to consider cache size. Cache is a small area on the disk where frequently and recently used data are temporarily stored; it is way way faster than the rest of the disk and the larger the cache, the better the performance (generally speaking again, there are always exceptions). 8MB is the standard on smaller disks today and 16 MB for larger ones.

One small problem you may be facing with XP and SATA disks is that you may not be able to run them in AHCI mode (oh boy, more technical stuff...). AHCI mode is a more advanced way of addressing SATA disks but it is not supported by XP (which is why I've come to despise MS so much: you buy something as recent as XP 64 and then you can't run it on modern hardware...). Then again, I understand one of the differences between your mobo and my own is that yours does offer drivers that will allow you to run XP in AHCI.

Oh yes, and about gaming functionality under Linux. Linux does not know how to run many games natively; most of those were written for Windows after all. However, there is a company called Cedega that publishes special software that allows to run Windows games on Linux too. Unlike Linux, this is a commercial product but I'm informed that it isn't too expensive (something like $5/month).
 
Old 03-21-2007, 08:23 AM   #10
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Motherboard: Asus P5W DH-Deluxe Wi-Fi Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / WiFi / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID / CrossFire Ready 229.99

CD/DVD Drive: Lite-On Super-Multi LH20A1H / 20x DVD±R Burn / 16x DVD±R Read / 8x DVD+RW / 6x DVD-RW / 8x DVD±R DL / 12x DVD-RAM / Internal / Black&Beige / DVD Burner with Lightscribe 49.99

Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive Black 19.99

Hard Drive: Seagate / Barracuda 7200.10 / 400GB / 7200 / 16MB / Serial ATA-300 / EIDE / OEM / Hard Drive 124.97

Video Card: EVGA GeForce 8800 GTX / 768MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card with FREE Dark Messiah Might & Magic PC Game 539.99

Memory/Ram: OCZ Platinum Revision-2 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 x 1024MB) 164.99

Processor (CPU): Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz / 4MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Conroe/Dual-Core / Socket 775 / Processor with Fan 349.99

Case: NZXT Nemesis Elite Gaming Case-Black 109.99

Power Supply: OCZ / GameXStream / 700-Watt / ATX / 120mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready / EPS / Active PFC / Power Supply 134.99

Accessory: SilverStone 5.25" Aluminum Fan and Temperature Controller – Black
37.99
OCZ Ultra 5+ Silver Thermal Compound 5.99

Nexus Anti-Vibration PC Mounting Kit 19.99

Insulating Washer 48 Pack 1.08

Ultra Antistatic Wrist Strap 5.99

Ultra 23.5 x 23.5-in Antistatic Mat – Black 19.99

Power Supply Rubber Silencer – Clear 6.99

Cooling/Fans: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Fan For Intel CPU 18.50

Zalman ZM-47J Northbridge Chipset Heatsink 7.99

Cooler Master / Hyper L3 / Socket 775 / Heat Pipe
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU Cooling Fan 34.99

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Upgrade Serv. Pack 2 99.99


thats what i have it down to know what do u think
 
Old 03-21-2007, 09:08 AM   #11
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Why not take a look at LQ's very own HCL.

Just a suggestion.
 
Old 03-21-2007, 11:42 AM   #12
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Looks almost fine to me. Except that Seagate doesn't make the best SATA disks in the world so you may still look for a different brand, although that's entirely up to you. Trust me, I didn't get Western Digital because it was the only thing around.

Also a bit surprised you insist on a single big drive. I really do not see why you should get an expensive RAID-capable motherboard and then buy only one hard disk. Especially when smaller disks are generally faster than bigger ones. If it was your intention to use only one disk, you might as well have gotten a 60$ Asrock board (don't be misled by the low price - my Asrock board walks all over that rotten ASUS P5B that I paid more than three times as much).

As for the Nvidia, that will be fine for Windows but, as I said before, quite troublesome (at this time at least) with Linux. I understand you don't like to buy a different one now and then spend plenty of $$$ again to get that Nvidia after all; I'm just trying to make clear that Linux may still be a few months off for you with that kind of video card.
 
  


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