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06-09-2002, 12:13 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2002
Distribution: Mandrake 8.1
Posts: 5
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Blank screen on boot
Hello all,
I get a blank screen after selecting Linux on lilo. It says 'loading linux....' then nothing. What should I do?
After switching to geforce2 video card, graphical loading info no longer scrolled on the screen, but after a few minutes of 'blank screen' X login screen appeared. Now, no login screen appears, only blank. I tried ESQ during lilo to boot with parameters '1, 3, single, etc' but same problem - I can't boot.
Here's what I changed: Screen would occasionally get mangled, with horizontal echos looking like window blinds. I tried to reconfigure XFree86 to see if I can fix this problem. I followed the instructions for NVidia cards (glx, etc), changed my resolution and rebooted. The Drake config tool to modify screen parameters always failed no matter what I chose, so I just chose what I thought I was using before.
Now I can't seem to boot, so how can I get back in to make modifications, and once I do, what do I need to do? Thanks for any help you can give,
System:
Mandrake 8.1
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX-400
stav
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06-09-2002, 02:00 PM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Switzerland
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 376
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Now I am a bit confused... if you say you get only to the point loading linux....., how could you have configured Xfree?
My guess is, that the lilo.conf also contains a line like vga=791 or something about graphics. Take this out (if you can) and try again.
May be your x problem will be solved if you solve the boot problem.
Good luck
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06-09-2002, 02:12 PM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Netherlands
Distribution: redhat suse mandrake freebsd
Posts: 344
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Hi stav,
I think you have got two different
problems with your card. After lilo
your X-server is not fired up, so maybe
you can change an option in your
lilo.conf ; like vga=normal or vga=ask
(asks you to choose a resolution)
I think, as i haven't tried it, that hitting
esc while lilo boots enter;
linux runlevel 3 vga=ask , also works.
If that works and you are in level 3
run XFdrake --noauto --expert,
choose at first some moderate settings
like colordepth of 16 or 24 etc.
If that works, copy your XF86config-4
before experimenting with opengl/nvidia
as they tend to be a little unstable
Some extra options in XF86config-4
can fix that, and the option mem=nopentium
in your lilo (only for AMD) also helps alot
Hope this works for you.
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06-09-2002, 04:36 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2002
Distribution: Mandrake 8.1
Posts: 5
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Thank you both for your replies. Unfortunately there has been little progress. I did/found the following things:
* booting with "linux runlevel 3 vga=ask" presented me with a list of choices like "0F00 80X25". I tried a few and got the blank screen with each.
* I did a "rescue" with the installation cd and modified and tested the XFree86-4 config file a few times with no positive results. Switched back and forth between nvidia and nv drivers, plus other parameters (except resolution).
* lilo.conf can be changed in rescue mode, but I was not able to run lilo. Boot parameters can be tested manually anyway, which is what I did above. Also, there was a pre-existing lilo boot option without the vga parameter missing - with no change.
Any other ideas????????????
Thanks,
stav
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06-09-2002, 05:16 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2002
Distribution: Mandrake 8.1
Posts: 5
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Not an X problem???
Booting with runlevels 1 or 3 resulted in the same blank screen. So can I conclude that it is not an X problem?
When I tried to see what would happen if I attempted to perform an upgrade with the same Mandrake 8.1 cd, I got to the following error:
"No root partition found to perform an upgrade"
The rescue boot was able to detect the root (I think).
But might this have something to do with the problem? I wasn't doing anything with the partitions that I know of that may have caused this.
What should I do now?
Thanks,
stav
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06-10-2002, 10:25 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Switzerland
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 376
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Yes, you can conclude that the booting problem is not related to X.
Questions: Did the system work before you switched the graphics board?
The thing in your case I am confused about: How can you switch the x resolutions, if you can't even boot?
Do you have a second kernel installed or anything?
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06-10-2002, 11:25 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2002
Distribution: Mandrake 8.1
Posts: 5
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Still a blank screen...
Yes, the system worked before I switched the card. It also worked after except that the boot messages didn't scroll on the screen. After a minute of blank screen, the login gui would appear and all would be well. After I messed with the config gui (focusing on the video configuration, I don't think I changed anything else - see below), I then got the permanent blank screen.
Using the rescue cd, I can access all my file systems. I modified lilo.conf and ran lilo, modified inittab to boot into init 3. No change. Running "mount" shows all my partitions.
I am writing this now from my MS/ME partition on the same hard disk, and everything is fine here.
I noticed some files modified around the time when the problems first occured:
/boot/kernel.h
/etc/mtab
/boot/config
I don't know if this is related, but just noticed the dates.
Since I don't see scrolling messages on boot, I don't know where it hung. Nothing in /var/log appears to have been modified. Is there any other way to 'debug'?
As a last resort I can copy all my important files over to my MS partition and then re-install. I'd hate to do that, and it would take a week to get things working again.
Any suggestions?
Thanks again,
stav
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06-10-2002, 11:38 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Switzerland
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 376
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Ok.... i have an idea... it is a temporary idea. Since you can boot from your rescue cd, copy this kernel to /boot and add it to lilo.conf and then try to boot. If this works, the problem is due to the kernel.
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06-11-2002, 11:44 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2002
Distribution: Mandrake 8.1
Posts: 5
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Rescue disk
I booted with the rescue disk and searched for the kernels on the disk. I found some .img files, and assumed they were the kernels. I transfered them to /boot and added them to lilo, but when running lilo an error message reported that they were to large. So the test didn't even get started.
Now what????
stav
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06-11-2002, 02:48 PM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Switzerland
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 376
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Hmmm... my kernel images don't have a img extension... are you sure, these are the kernel images?
You could try to use the grub boot loader instead of lilo, because it doesn't have this limit.... but I don't think this would really solve your problem....
But hey, I am a  and I am running out of ideas...
Isn't there anybody else that is trying to help him or am I the only one????
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06-12-2002, 02:53 PM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Netherlands
Distribution: redhat suse mandrake freebsd
Posts: 344
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Haven't got a real answer just a try ,
things went wrong after switching the
videocard, so maybe some alias lines
in your modules.conf are still related
with that card ?
Mine says for nvidea; alias /dev/nvida* Nvdriver
think it got there after Opengl/glx install
Maybe worth a try and for me be-ing a
newbie 
Last edited by mrGee; 06-12-2002 at 02:55 PM.
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08-02-2002, 03:10 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 1
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more or less the same problem, too
hello everybody,
i'm experiencing a more or less compareable situation at the moment.
i've installed suse 8.0 on a dual-athlon workstation with a geforce 2 ti, dual-booting with windows xp, the lilo in a separate boot-partition, started by the win-bootmanager.
after passing thru lilo, booting either standard linux or in "failsafe" mode, i only hear a decent "click" by my monitor and face a blank screen - the system appears to be frozen.
funny enough there is no problem booting linux by floppy.
i've already tried the "vga = normal" modification, without any effect.
so, if anybody has some sort of hint how i might maneouver around this marginal interface-deficit, it surely would be appreciated. thanks.
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08-02-2002, 04:33 PM
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Member
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Central US
Distribution: Libranet 1.9.1 & 2.0, tinyX (2dskxwin) & WinLinux 2001
Posts: 83
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The first thing that came to mind was that for some reason your background/foreground color had changed to black/black.
When you said it started to scroll normally went black and after a reasonable amount of time X would start, login would come up and all was well ...
Where to look for it I DON'T know ! Someone here might. Probabably in lilo.conf . The 80x25 is the # of columns wide and 25= the pixels in height of the font/prompt. Seems like 80x50 is default. the 0F00 is probably a combination settting for the forground/background. At an earlier point this might have been easier to correct. Installing the new driver might have partially rewritten a file that holds the key to boot prompt color.
Sorry I cant offer more, yet.
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08-19-2002, 08:29 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 1
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Plagued by the same condition
Howdy All,
I am suffering the same fate after installing a PNY Verto video card (uses the GeForce2 chipset) running redhat 7.2. After installing the card the normal bios boot sequence was displayed as well as the Grub splash screen - but alas as soon as I made my boot selection the screen went dark. To my surprise the login splash screen came up some minutes later and all was fine from that point on.
I got my hands on a Suse 8.0 distribution and attempted an clean installation - no go. I get the green lizard greeting screen with the installation options, but as soon as a selection is made the screen goes dark.
my configuration trivia:
athlon 1.2 ghz / 740 mb / generic SCSI / no worky verto GeForce 2 video
Thanks in advance, I know there are better minds here than mine.
-mike
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08-20-2002, 06:07 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Switzerland
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 376
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Try passing vga=ask to the kernel boot options and see whether there is a screen resolution that is supported...
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