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Old 06-28-2005, 03:42 AM   #1
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Backing up Fedora Core 3 files to an NTFS Windows XP drive.


My computer has two hard drives. One is a drive with Windows XP Home SP1(NTFS filesystem). The other is a Fedora Core 3 drive(I don't know what filesystem that uses).

Now that Fedora Core 4 is out, I want to reformat my FC3 drive and put FC4 on it. Before I do this, I want to backup my music, programs, etc. that are currently on my FC3 drive. My first choice would be to use my DVD burner to burn DVD backups of everything, but unfortunatly FC3 can't detect my SATA DVD burner drive. There is far too much to use the internet as a backup medium, leaving the only other choice I can think of to send the files to my Windows XP drive.

I can see the hard drive that has Fedora Core 3 on it while I'm in Windows XP, but all it can see is the maximum size, and other than that it says it's empty. After reading a little I discovered that many Linux distros use the EXT2 or EXT3 filesystem, so I decided to try to find a way to read those from Windows XP.

I tried using ext2ifs, a driver for Windows XP that allows me to read from EXT2 and EXT3 drives, but all it found was a drive called '/boot'. My guess is that Fedora Core 3 uses a different filesystem than EXT2 or EXT3, but I don't know what it is.

So my questions are these:

1. What filesystem does Fedora Core 3 use?

2. Is there any way to read from that while in Windows XP so I can backup my files?

3. Does anyone have any better ideas of how I can backup the files on my Fedora Core 3 drive?
 
Old 06-28-2005, 04:28 AM   #2
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1 Fedora Files System:
You might have chosen ReiserFS during system installation. (which file system did you choose for the drive which you mounted as / ?)

2. From Suse 9.1 CD I used "LTools1.1" or something like that to read linux file systems. It had both java and .net platform implementation, but didn't use much -- you should have a try

3. won't updating the system from FC3 to FC4 work??
 
Old 06-28-2005, 05:11 AM   #3
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You can just update from 3 to 4? Is there an option on the CD's for it or what?(I haven't burned the ISOs to discs yet) If that's the case, that would sure be a lot easier
 
Old 06-28-2005, 08:37 PM   #4
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hi there

/update/
actually I meant to say _upgrade_ <--- typographical mistake. Sorry.

Write the FC4 ISO to CDROM, boot from it. The installation CD gives you many options (e.g. Fresh Install ..... ). Choose Upgrading your system. That might work fine but never forget to backup your data... Don't you have any FAT32 partition?

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Old 06-28-2005, 08:39 PM   #5
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Nope, only an NTFS and whatever FC3 is.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 08:45 PM   #6
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I did this two nights ago and the only method I trust is to borrow a drive that is equal to or greater than your current drive and do a complete dd copy from one drive to another as a safety backup. Use with great care by:

dd if=/dev/yourharddisk of=/dev/friendsharddisk

Leave it for one or more hours till you get a prompt back. Reboot your machine swapping your drive for your borrowed drive. Does your system still boot ok? Good you have a working roll back in case the upgrade doesn't work.

Put your drive back in and boot your FC4 DVD, hit enter and upgrade your system. If all works for you, then you can discard the backup drive. Otherwise you can simple dd back the other way to restore your system if something goes wrong. I don't trust the upgrading system completely and so I use this method of rollback each time I upgrade fedora.

Hope it goes well.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 08:54 PM   #7
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Kind of risky writing to NTFS from Linux.

A few things can be done.
1. If you have multiple partitions on the linux harddrive and one of the partitions can hold the data you want then copy over to it. Make sure you know the /dev partition ID so as not to delete it.

2. Shrink your NTFS partition if not full. Then create a new partition on the Windows drive and format it as fat32. Then boot back into linux and mount that partition and copy files over to it. When done you can then delete the fat32 partition and resize NTFS back to orginal size.

3. Get a 3rd hardrive and install FC4 to it. If you have the cable ports then you might be able to install all drives.

4. Get a 3rd drive and pull your linux drive from the computer and install new 3rd harddrive. Place orginal linux harddrive in an ext USB enclosure.

5. Depending on data size you might be able to fit on a USB stick

6. Buy or borrower an ext USB harddrive. One could even buy one from say staples. Mount it and copy over files needed, install FC4, Then restore files from USB drive. When done erase the data and take it back to the store and get your money back.

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Old 06-28-2005, 08:57 PM   #8
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if you have spare harddisk. you can make a vfat partition and copy the required data to it.
Now data accessible to XP, make you backup CD or just keep on the harddisk for restore.
 
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Thanks for the help guys, I've got my FC4 up and running nicely now
 
  


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