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View Poll Results: Are you for or against systemd?
But having said all of that, my questions have been answered, and in all honesty (and as I've said to Jeremy), I'm out! And will not be participating at LQ for the foreseeable future (if ever).
Don't walk away completely. Break out the rocking chair. Pull out the icechest. Sit outside. Enjoy the sun and air.
I wish I had a Star Trek Transporter. So me and my bike could appear magically on members door steps here and I could
mooch for a day.
But , this forum suffices for now. Hate to so see ya leave. Me and James have been brothers from other mothers for ages now here.
Along with other friends I have been fortunate to make and have on this forum.
I figure the smarter members just put up with my shenanigans here. Cuz I aint a total heel. This site. In my opinion. Needs all the
the engaging members it can get. It is one reason I enjoy this forum when it gets too hot outside to work.
So take a break. Not a walk.
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Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers started the project to develop systemd in 2010.
yes, but mind the wording.
nowhere does it say that they actually started systemd as such - it always reads "started working on systemd" or some such.
but i guess that is the way of modern open source projects (they always build on something) and i'm making too much of it.
i had hoped for some sort of article that just leaves the whole controversy aside, but if it exists it surely got drowned by all the noise.
We should maybe leave it like it is, accept the change... and simply give up and just use Systemd. Things won't change at all, so why to keep looking forward to keep Sysvinit?
We should maybe leave it like it is, accept the change... and simply give up and just use Systemd. Things won't change at all, so why to keep looking forward to keep Sysvinit?
For the same reason we don't simply give up and just use windows, mac os or chrome?
I'm not wedded to sysvinit, but do want to avoid replacing it with something that can't be easily replaced in its turn.
Although I couldn't care less, I couldn't vote "could not careless" because "careless" != "care less", and I could care less about grammar because I care about it a lot.
Using systemd hasn't affected me in the slightest, and I was originally against it, but I can see why it has been accepted by a great number of developers, despite its drawbacks. So now, the only thing that gets me riled is blind evangelism from either side.
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digital infinity exists let's try just to ask if we don't get
"English" I* could carenot but communication if that's a thing‽
For the same reason we don't simply give up and just use windows, mac os or chrome?
I'm not wedded to sysvinit, but do want to avoid replacing it with something that can't be easily replaced in its turn.
It is kinda depressing maybe, I just see no chances that we can have really what we went. If we strive today with Sysvinit, it will be later with something else.
It is kinda depressing maybe, I just see no chances that we can have really what we went. If we strive today with Sysvinit, it will be later with something else.
Yes, it is depressing. But at least we have alternatives AND a better chance of our voices being heard than windows, mac os or chrome users do. Maybe.
It is kinda depressing maybe, I just see no chances that we can have really what we went. If we strive today with Sysvinit, it will be later with something else.
Sure, you do! Build it!
Construct a new open-source project and describe what you have in mind. Put out a technical architecture and invite participation. (You can even use LQ to attract attention to it.)
But there's one thing that you should be prepared for: that, in due time, people will begin to criticize you, and to say that your project is an evil departure from sysvinit, and that maybe it's all malware secretly foisted upon us by <<terrorists | communists | ISIS | Al-Queda>>.
That being said, there is nothing stopping you from trying to "one-up" the systemd project. Maybe you will succeed!
Construct a new open-source project and describe what you have in mind. Put out a technical architecture and invite participation. (You can even use LQ to attract attention to it.)
But there's one thing that you should be prepared for: that, in due time, people will begin to criticize you, and to say that your project is an evil departure from sysvinit, and that maybe it's all malware secretly foisted upon us by <<terrorists | communists | ISIS | Al-Queda>>.
That being said, there is nothing stopping you from trying to "one-up" the systemd project. Maybe you will succeed!
There are good alternatives to SysV, has been since at least '97: http://jdebp.eu./FGA/daemontools-family.html No conspiracy theories needed; nobody uses them. The "if you build it, they will come" methodology really doesn't work on its own.
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