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Old 06-03-2016, 09:01 PM   #1
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Are sites like linuxdocs and tldp still relevant?


Do you think they a re still relevant or outdated?
 
Old 06-03-2016, 11:34 PM   #2
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probably some parts are outdated, but definitely relevant.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 02:26 AM   #3
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It depends. I think the more hardware-oriented HOWTOs like acpi and sound configuration are not very useful today.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 05:52 AM   #4
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Content-wise, maybe.
Concept-wise, yes.

All a newbie needs is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_...tation_Project

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Old 06-04-2016, 12:01 PM   #5
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Looks like linuxdocs.org hasn't been updated much if at all since 2001.

TLDP looks like it's barely up to date too. Also seems to be geared towards Red Hat if I'm not mistaken.

Even though I'm a Debian user, I find myself using the Arch Linux wiki for anything not specific to Arch.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 07:57 AM   #6
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Looks like linuxdocs.org hasn't been updated much if at all since 2001.

TLDP looks like it's barely up to date too. Also seems to be geared towards Red Hat if I'm not mistaken.

Even though I'm a Debian user, I find myself using the Arch Linux wiki for anything not specific to Arch.
Damn you are right they have awesome content there!
 
Old 06-05-2016, 08:06 AM   #7
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It really is a shame, these sites are part of linux history, and sites like these, helped bring linux into the mainstream.

The "gurus" of this time deserve much respect. Sad part is the "gurus" of today seem unwilling to pick up the torch and carry on the great tradition of these sites.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 09:09 AM   #8
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Hi,

The information at these sites are still providing information that is relevant to the users needs. As to be current then that requires a user to dig deep and interpret information that can be used to help solve their issue(s). It took time to compose and compile the information that is basically useful to a Gnu/Linux user.

I originally came from a UNIX background and found Slackware Gnu/Linux when Patrick Volkerding released the first version and found Slackware to be the best UNIX-Like Gnu/Linux. I still rely on TLDP for documentation to clarify for this slower memory as time goes by.

Learn the basics! Most new technology was not around when the 'TLDP' participants compiled their documentation. For a lot of the new technology I will use white papers and documents from the likes of IBM, Intel and other leading manufactures. Information is out there, you just need to look. Search engines provide the means to delve into the realm of information but one must be able to discern what is relevant and important to one's needs;
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Spoon feeding only helps the infants of the world!

Hope this helps.
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:41 AM   #9
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Most new technology was not around when the 'TLDP' participants compiled their documentation.
Agreed. Another reason why these sites needs to be updated with newer content.


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Spoon feeding only helps the infants of the world!
Disagree. Isn't that precisely what sites like TLDP provide? Providing insight and knowledge by taking complex, and sometimes confusing subjects, and making them easier to understand. How is that a bad thing? You have stated, that you use TLPD to be spoon feed, and yet to turn around and say spoon feeding is a bad thing.

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Information is out there, you just need to look.
Thank God the authors of the docs and howto's, at TLDP didn't have this attitude!

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I originally came from a UNIX background and found Slackware Gnu/Linux when Patrick Volkerding released the first version and found Slackware to be the best UNIX-Like Gnu/Linux.
So I bet you have alot, of information you could share. Not saying you don't by the way.

Last edited by Lex_Linux; 06-05-2016 at 09:54 AM. Reason: misplaced ideas
 
Old 06-05-2016, 10:55 AM   #10
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I've never heard of linuxdocs (I guess that's my answer?), but tldp is where the best information on BASH is. It's relevant at least for that.

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Old 06-05-2016, 11:47 AM   #11
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Agreed. Another reason why these sites needs to be updated with newer content.
Then what's stopping you from contributing?

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Disagree. Isn't that precisely what sites like TLDP provide? Providing insight and knowledge by taking complex, and sometimes confusing subjects, and making them easier to understand. How is that a bad thing?
I really do not consider reading documentation spoon feeding but when everything is presented in a palatable sense for general public. Most UNIX or UNIX-Like docs do a fine job of intrinsic information but the user must understand the semantics and syntax. Or at least be willing to do some research personally.
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You have stated, that you use TLPD to be spoon feed, and yet to turn around and say spoon feeding is a bad thing.
I never said that I used TLDP to be spoon fed but to read for understanding to transverse the information to my needs.

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Thank God the authors of the docs and howto's, at TLDP didn't have this attitude!
If you think that the authors were creating the docs to be easily understood then that's my intent. But to have a polished documentation to be understood then there are assumptions made that the reader will have some basic understanding.

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So I bet you have alot, of information you could share. Not saying you don't by the way.
I share here at LQ all the time. That is my way of giving back to the Gnu/Linux community via LQ.
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Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
Old 06-05-2016, 12:10 PM   #12
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Agreed. Another reason why these sites needs to be updated with newer content.
Then what's stopping you from contributing?
I don't know enough. I haven't been using it for 20+years


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So I bet you have alot, of information you could share. Not saying you don't by the way.
I share here at LQ all the time. That is my way of giving back to the Gnu/Linux community via LQ.
Since you are posting on LQ and have such a high rep I assumed this.. Hence me saying "Not saying you don't at the end."

btw quoting quotes whats up with that?

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Last edited by Lex_Linux; 06-05-2016 at 12:32 PM. Reason: to add a quote of my own! and fix quoting two levels deep.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 04:02 PM   #13
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Hi,

Everyone starts somewhere!

I enjoy posting quotes that are related to a topic.

Personally, I have given a lot back to the community and will continue too help whenever I can.

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Let's get the thread back on topic!
 
  


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