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Old 03-08-2015, 02:08 PM   #1
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Apparent lack of UK Thesaurus for LibreOffice Writer


My Linux computer came with LibreOffice pre-installed. As a newbie, it took me a long time to get the UK English Dictionary to work. In the end the solution was simple. The UK dictionary was, for some reason, not installed. That was quickly rectified but the hope that a similar solution would make the UK thesaurus available proved ill-founded. The response to:-
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sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-gb
was that this software does not exist, only the en-us version. I tried to complain to LibreOffice but received an automated response best paraphrased as, "That's been fixed. Complaint invalid."

I surfed the Net and found quite a few irate users with the same problem. I tried one or two of the proferred solutions but failed to find one that worked. One entailed re-installing the OO package but, as the result of a recent post I made to the newbie forum, I was strongly advised not to install software from source but, where a copy was held in the appropriate resository, to stick with that. I therefore upgraded and updated my distro, as recommended, but still no thesaurus. Is is possible to install the UK version (if it really exists!) or must I be content just to join what appear to be the rather populous ranks of the 'disgruntled of GB'?
 
Old 03-08-2015, 07:36 PM   #2
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there may exist an workaround like an online spell checker? note that GB is less populated than US
 
Old 03-09-2015, 05:13 AM   #3
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there may exist an workaround like an online spell checker? note that GB is less populated than US
I found Artha in the repository, so it was easy to install and looks as though it should do the job. Unfortunately, though, that does not answer the question of whether the UK thesaurus exists, as some maintain, or not, as others claim. The thing seems to be more elusive than the Higgs boson!
 
Old 03-09-2015, 04:24 PM   #4
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I have to ask if there is another name for a Thesaurus in the UK?

I'll get reported for jokes.

This claim to be solved? https://forum.openoffice.org/en/foru...php?f=7&t=9986

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=88090

Should be of some help maybe?

Last edited by jefro; 03-09-2015 at 07:34 PM.
 
Old 03-09-2015, 06:54 PM   #5
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Hi, I can do this (4.4.1.2 Fedora 21):

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Tools->Language->Thesaurus
I then get to choose a word(s) and there is a drop down box for language. I default to English (Australian) but English (UK) is also available.

This sounds quite simple so maybe I am missing the point. Pls advise if that is the case.

Cheers
 
Old 03-10-2015, 05:25 AM   #6
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Hi, I can do this (4.4.1.2 Fedora 21):



I then get to choose a word(s) and there is a drop down box for language. I default to English (Australian) but English (UK) is also available.

This sounds quite simple so maybe I am missing the point. Pls advise if that is the case.

Cheers
I am far too old to contemplate moving to Australia but at the moment that increasingly looks like being the only way of fixing this isssue. Consider yourself fortunate.

There are two gateways into the thesaurus.
1. Tools->Language, which shows Thesaurus as one of the resulting options. It can also be invoked with Ctrl F7. Unfortunately, however, 'Thesaurus' is disabled (greyed-out).
2. Tools->Options->Language->Writing Aids. This shows the appropriate dictionary but no thesaurus.

Attempts to find and install a UK version of the thesaurus also seem doomed to failure.

Hello, LibreOffice. Does anyone there read this Forum? We Brits inhabit that little island just off north-western France. I don't know whether it is shown on your atlases but the UK is actually where English originated. Hello, HELLO!. Is there anyone there?
 
Old 03-10-2015, 07:27 AM   #7
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I have to ask if there is another name for a Thesaurus in the UK?
Not to the best of my knowledge.

I followed the links you kindly provided. Prior to that I was contemplating making a contribution to LibreOffice. I have now changed my mind.

Last edited by Thermoman; 03-10-2015 at 09:41 AM. Reason: Spelling mistake
 
Old 03-10-2015, 11:45 AM   #8
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Thermoman,

Cancel the plane tickets to Australia!

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The answer is that the en-gb dictionary and thesaurus is included within the en-us versions
Main answer is here:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/42850...to-libreoffice

It originated from this blog:
http://www.astarix.co.uk/2012/06/pro...s-libreoffice/

Last edited by beachboy2; 03-10-2015 at 11:47 AM.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 12:31 PM   #9
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From an Ex-Patriat Brit to a Native Brit .....

Hi,
I have LibreOffice 4.4 ... did have 4.0 but I just reinstalled.
I set the language to en-UK ... ctrl-f7 and I get a thesaurus ...
it SAYS en-UK, but if you look in dict-en directory, there is a readme
which indicates that the thesaurus is actually the US version.

NOTE THAT I have no truck with these apts, yums, yams and other nonsense.
I install directly from the libreoffice site by downloading the tar bundle
of the libreoffice rpms. I am running Slackware so that makes me weird anyway.
LibreOffice is installed in /opt/libreoffice4.4 on my system and dict-en is
in share/extensions

cheers
pete

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Old 03-10-2015, 03:30 PM   #10
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Cancel the plane tickets to Australia!

Main answer is here:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/42850...to-libreoffice

It originated from this blog:
http://www.astarix.co.uk/2012/06/pro...s-libreoffice/
OK. I'll come clean. I was aware of claims that the UK and US versions of the thesaurus had been rolled into one. I have seen one or two examples. However, as a resident of what some already regard as the 51st state of the Union, whilst I will just about accept 'sidewalk' for 'pavement' and 'elevator' for 'lift', I flinch at the thought of being offered 'pants' for 'trousers'. Even worse is the prospect of trying to find a synonym for 'rubber'. Let's not go there, eh?
 
Old 03-10-2015, 03:44 PM   #11
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Hi thermoman,

It is interesting that the option is greyed out. I am sure this must mean something but not sure what. FYI I asked the question on the LO users mailing list:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org...td4142659.html

Some responses there. If you fancy joining the thread then the posters there may have further ideas.

Cheers
 
Old 03-10-2015, 06:08 PM   #12
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Hi thermoman,

The "greyed out" situation is troubling. Can you try:

Tools->Customize and navigate "menu" down to "Tools | Language"

You should see the language options. Is thesaurus there? Can you do anything with it?

AAMOI your original post advises that " Linux computer came with LibreOffice pre-installed". Who installed this? It does not sound like a standard installation.

Something else you can try (maybe your profile is causing the problem). In your home directory have a look in .config:

Quote:
[tim@hammer ~]$ ls .config/
abrt gnome-session libvirt totem
cinnamon-session goa-1.0 menus tracker
dconf gtk-2.0 midori transmission
eog gtk-3.0 mimeapps.list user-dirs.dirs
evolution ibus nautilus user-dirs.locale
gconf libreoffice nemo yelp
gedit libreoffice1 pulse
gnome-initial-setup-done libreofficedev sealert.conf
stop LO and rename the profile

Quote:
mv .config/libreoffice .config/oldlibre
Now restart LO and see if this fixes the problem

Cheers
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:57 AM   #13
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Hi thermoman,

The "greyed out" situation is troubling. Can you try:

Tools->Customize and navigate "menu" down to "Tools | Language"

You should see the language options. Is thesaurus there? Can you do anything with it?
Tools->Customize does not offer a 'Tools|Language' option. Tools->Options does, under Language Settings, as follows:-
User interface - Default English(USA) [No other options available]
Locale (surely that should be Local?) setting - Default English(UK)
Default languages for documents
Western - Default English(UK)

Under Writing Aids
Available language modules has Hunspell SpellChecker selected. (There is no sign of a Thesaurus nor, apparently any means of loading one.)
User-defined dictionaries has en-GB (English(UK) selected.

Quote:
AAMOI your original post advises that " Linux computer came with LibreOffice pre-installed". Who installed this? It does not sound like a standard installation.
I quote from Wickipedia:-
Quote:
Linux Mint comes with a wide range of software installed that includes LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, XChat, Pidgin, Transmission, GIMP, and Cheese.
I am virtually certain that the installation was completely standard, 'straight out of the box'.

Quote:
Something else you can try (maybe your profile is causing the problem). In your home directory have a look in .config:
My home directory does not contain a .config file.

As to your earlier post:-
Quote:
It is interesting that the option is greyed out. I am sure this must mean something but not sure what. FYI I asked the question on the LO users mailing list:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org...td4142659.html

Some responses there. If you fancy joining the thread then the posters there may have further ideas.
I followed-up most of the suggestions from the link, without finding a solution. As to the reference to Artha, can I refer you to my earlier reply on this thread? :-
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I found Artha in the repository, so it was easy to install and looks as though it should do the job. Unfortunately, though, that does not answer the question of whether the UK thesaurus exists, as some maintain, or not, as others claim. The thing seems to be more elusive than the Higgs boson!
 
Old 05-27-2015, 10:15 AM   #14
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Lightbulb solved issue with greyed out option by installing different thesaurus

i had the same problem and could not solve it by any of the suggestions here. i have mint and it came with libreoffice preinstalled and the thesaurus was greyed-out.
however, I came across this and it solved the problem for me. although the download is meant for openoffice, it worked like a charm. opened file in libreoffice, restarted libreoffice, problem gone. hope this can help others!
 
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:08 AM   #15
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Hi,
Works for me too ... much thanks for finding this.

cheers
pete

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