ok, I got it
now I tell the really simple method for who don't know it
(it's really simple, but like a lot of things in the world, seems the hardest thing if you don't know how do it)
Using KDE, you are using ARTS by default.
So if you want use more applications and want them share the soundcard:
1) configure all applications from their settings, choosing ARTS for sound output
or if your application doesn't have this setting
2) if for example your application command is
myapp launch it using this sintax
artsdsp
myapp
all applications configured / launched that use ARTS will works sharing the soundcard, so you will listen both its sound output.
The only problem is if your application is not compatible with arts. If these methods don't work probably your application is not compatible with ARTS, you may try esound , another linux sound mixer, search with google
Thanks a lot for your help LQ members, maybe this time I'm helping someone with the same problem I had.