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angustia 01-08-2004 07:20 AM

aMSN kills linux
hi, i've got a question and a problem:

qst: i have debian unstable, with the kernel 2.4.18 bf 24, and i compiled the 2.4.24, made both files$version and bzImage, put them in their right places, and modified lilo, and reboot and all OK (all seems the same), but initrd is still 2.4.18-bf2.4, could it make any problem?

prblm: in that linux, i've installed amsn (with apt and from source) and i can use it by 5 minutes, and screens turns black, and then apears garbage and then the whole system hangs (i can't change the console) and i got to reboot. Also i close amsn and log out, and gdm blinks 3 times after it appears. All this is executed by a simple user.

Thanks for any help, excuse my english.

@@@ 01-08-2004 10:40 AM

1) It could be a problem, but doesn't have to. Actually, the really interesting question is: Why do you need an initrd?
2) Sorry, but I don't know what amsn is...

angustia 01-08-2004 01:33 PM

it's nvidia's guilt
it's the nvidia graphic driver, simply randomly hangs, with the 2.4.18 kernel i installed the drivers and they ran ok, with the 2.4.24, i had to reinstall them (gcc 3.3.3), and now they randomly hangs(after a firts startx). Right now i'm with the nv driver only.

for the first question, i made an initrd for the 2.4.24 and reboot and i got a kernel panic.

@@@ 01-09-2004 09:41 AM

I don't know about the nvidia stuff...
But you didn't say why you need an initrd. Try to boot without it. There aren't so many reasons for using an initial ramdisk...

angustia 01-09-2004 07:14 PM

i don't know why may i need an initrd, i think it's to jump to the "/" partition, a program that says umount and mount /dev/hd?, so an initrd could work for 2.2 , 2.4 , 2.6 ... Also i think it must content modules for filesystems that wasn't built in the kernel... who knows?

h/w 01-09-2004 07:22 PM

initrd is kinda deprecated now.
are you using the latest nvidia driver? the 5xxx? i think that has few bugs, and u should try the 4xxx which seems ok to me.

angustia 01-09-2004 09:31 PM

### my lilo.conf ###
root=/dev/hda7 # many partitions...
map=/boot/map # it's the like in RH?
# the kernel compilation also create a$version
# and i don't put it here ...

# initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.24
# if enabled => kernel panic ....
# it's the only mention about any initrd in this file


### ###

yes,, the same i used with the 2.4.24, and with the 2.6.0 working fine at this time.

thanks for the advice

angustia 01-09-2004 09:45 PM


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