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GoinEasy9 03-19-2004 11:23 PM

Alsa problems AC97 etc...help!!!
 
ok....Hi...i need your help

i installed the alsa drivers as per the download from asus(from whence i got my motherboard...followed the instructions to the letter..still no sound

some nice member from bosnia told me to use OSS but i still would like to have alsa installed...

this is my lsmod:
[root@localhost goineasy9]# lsmod
Module Size Used by Tainted: P
snd-pcm-oss 42724 0 (autoclean) (unused)
snd-pcm 76864 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-page-alloc 8056 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-timer 18472 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-mixer-oss 14328 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
ppp_deflate 4472 0 (autoclean)
bsd_comp 5400 0 (autoclean)
parport_pc 25544 1 (autoclean)
lp 8160 0 (autoclean)
parport 34472 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
agpgart 48292 3 (autoclean)
snd 40420 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore 6340 0 [snd]
ppp_async 9312 1
ppp_generic 24292 3 [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc 6564 1 [ppp_generic]
af_packet 14856 0 (autoclean)
sr_mod 19384 0 (autoclean)
floppy 55932 0
bcm4400 32140 1 (autoclean)
supermount 84032 3 (autoclean)
scanner 12064 0
ide-cd 33956 0
cdrom 32608 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi 11376 0
scsi_mod 106176 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
nvidia 1765440 11
printer 8576 0
ehci-hcd 19212 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 25136 0 (unused)
usbcore 74988 1 [scanner printer ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
rtc 9004 0 (autoclean)
ext3 60048 2
jbd 39264 2 [ext3]
[root@localhost goineasy9]#

need to know why the oss modules are still here instead of the alsa drivers

i am a newbie

should i have deleted the oss divers before i installed the alsa drivers?

everything is working on my linux box except sound.. i am so close...please help

i am microsoft free...but without sound

using Mandrake 9.2

i've looked and searched all the threads looking for the answer

can someone tell me how to install alsa drivers so they work with my box

details of my system below

should i have deleted the oss drivers before installing alsa

if so, please tell me how

oh god i'm so close

will never go back to M$

even if i have to do without sound

but i know someone in LQ has the answer

please help..i know u will

Thanks in advance

Tom

p.s. this is my lsmod after installing alsa

Crazy Travis 03-20-2004 04:36 AM

did you go here: www.alsa-project.org and follow the directions for your sound card? It takes more than just installing the packages they give you. And in my opinion alsa sounds much better than oss.

GoinEasy9 03-20-2004 05:19 AM

The reason i'm goin for Alsa is because of all the talk about alsa sounding better than OSS...but i did go to alsa-project.org....

that is one of the reasons i'm doing this thread.....i need to know what i'm doing wrong...i know someone in LQ can help me....my original questions still stand....what did i do wrong???

thanks to all in advance
Tom

tireseas 03-20-2004 07:13 AM

Are you saying you don't have sound even after entering 'aumix' (w/out quotes) at the console, and adjusting the volume? Aumix defaults to muting all channels. Check that first because you may have already solved the problem

Sargek 03-20-2004 09:11 AM

Alsa
 
Well, it looks like Alsa is not being loaded in whatever init script Mandrake uses to load things. In Slackware, /etc/rc.d/rc.M runs another script called rc.alsa, which loads the appropriate drivers. I have no idea how mandrake init works - it's different than Slackware. It may be as simple as commenting out the calls to the OSS drivers in the appropriate init script and calling the alsa ones, but I would suggest finding an example of how this is done in Mandrake. Alsa is very popular, so it should not be difficult to find this information. If there is an RPM for installing Alsa, it may do the script modificatins for you - something to consider. If you installed Alsa from source, no telling if the script mods were done.

If you successfully get Alsa drivers to load, there is another thing you need to do:

Run 'alsamixer' from the command line. You can run it as your normal user. It will run a mixer that you can unmute and adjust volumes on any channels you need. There will be a lot of channels, so you will have to arrow key to the right to see all of them, and use the 'm' key to unmute the channels you need. After you have done that, run, as root, 'alsactl store.' This will store the setting you just made. If you STILL don't have sound, I will need to know the gui you are using (kde/gnome, etc) so I can help you with the sound settings there, if need be.

jarib 03-20-2004 11:07 AM

Another thing you could try is to open a terminal and as root run alsaconf

GoinEasy9 03-20-2004 09:05 PM

Hi

Thanks for the input..i'm gonna try it all...thanks

fyi: installed the alsa driver from the terminal...so i don't know if mandrake is the problem...although it didn't recognize the inboard sound card after installation

tried to download alsaconf and it hung the other night...will try again, can't seem to find it in the rpms

i am gonna try to run alsamixer from the command line....

thanks again

GoinEasy9 03-21-2004 12:00 AM

thanks for your help....the answer was a dumb one...when i brought the computer in to the dealer to ask about a usb problem, they disabled the ac97 sound....now it's on auto and everything is working...

dumb dumb dumb...i appreciate your help....

quess what...now everything is working on my linux box ...Yaaaaaaaaayyy

Thanks again
Tom

Razza2004 03-21-2004 12:56 AM

Glad to see its working :D

If anyone has troubles with your sound try this, this is how I finally got my AC97 working.

Make sure you run alsamixer, then alsactl store to save the alsamixer settings.
When configuring alsamixer, make sure you unmute each thing as well as turning the volume up. I spent hours trying to work out what was wrong and all I had to do was unmute it (pressing '<' & '>').

Also, if your sound comes out staticy, try turning PCM (in alsamixer) down a bit, and if your sound sounds really weird, like only one channel working etc, try turing down 3D control - depth (in alsamixer), it solved it for me.

Also, you might need to get ALSA lib and ALSA utils. Im not sure if they I already had them, but sound worked after I installed them and ran alsamixer.

GoinEasy9 03-23-2004 12:18 AM

Thanks Raz
installed Alsa Lib & Utils, ran alsamixer....everything sounds fine

also thanks for the hints...

pegasys 03-23-2004 01:52 PM

Alsa ac97 pcm problems
 
Hi,

I'm having a slightly different problem with my ac97 soundcard...
It install perfectly, but if I run a program which sends output to the pcm channel, every once in a while I get some sort of static noise out of my speakers, which can be muted by muting the pcm channel.
I've tried updated drivers, different settings, and have spent several hours on this and other forums, but I couldn't find any other solution.
Does anybody have a useful suggestion?

I'm running SuSE 9.0 (KDE3.1) on a PIII800EB
MB: AOpen AX33, with onboard sound (VT82C686 AC97)

Other specs are available on request.

Many Thanx in advance, PegaSys

very :newbie:


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