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Gins 01-20-2009 06:43 AM

A switch
 
I need some advice from you all.

I want to connect a single printer to 3 or 4 computers.

[For the moment, I have connected two computers to a router(not a wireless one).

On top of this I connect both computers to a single monitor via a 'Deltaco' switch. The switch is a rotten one. It does not support the DVI. However, it works. Everything works. The switch for the monitor has nothing do with the router.
I have some plans to add another computer.]

The router is connected to the wall; I mean my cable Internet connection.

Is it possible to buy a simple switch to connect a single printer for 3 or 4 computers?

I went to a shop which sells hardware and they showed me a device similar to a router and it costs about 150 dollars. I don't want to pay 150 dollars because you could buy excellent printers for about 70-80 dollars nowadays.

I would like to buy a simple switch under 50 dollars.

I haven't made a server at the moment though I installed Windows 2008 Server on one partition.

I will make a server later on.

I just need a simple switch to connect 3 or 4 computers to a single printer.

Your thoughts are welcome.

pixellany 01-20-2009 06:58 AM

Why not share the printer on the network? I have not done this, but there have been quite a few threads here about how to do it.

You can also buy dedicated print servers.

Look what Uncle Google found...
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F1U200-.../dp/B00006B5VH

I'm not sure what issues you will have when a configured printer is disconnected and re-connected. Also, someone has to operate the switch anytime a user wants to print something.

Gins 01-20-2009 07:07 AM

Thanks pixellany

I have not made a network as yet.

At the moment two computers are connected to a router. I want to add one more.

If you make a network, there is a server.

The server has to be working all the time to use the printer. I know how to make a printer server.

pixellany 01-20-2009 07:11 AM

If you have more than one computer on a router, that qualifies as a network.

To share a printer using one of the computers, it certainly is true that you would have to leave that computer on.

Gins 01-20-2009 08:25 AM

The following is true, pixellany.

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If you have more than one computer on a router, that qualifies as a network.
I thought of a real network of computers in an establishment. They have Cisco routers and you have to configure them. There are lot of switches too. Usually all the servers are in an air conditioned room.

I have studied networking for about 3 years though I have not taken any CCNP tests, as yet.

For me, when someone says a network, it is natural to think about a network of computers in a school, company, etc.

In networking terminology, we have a LAN at home. Everything connected to your wall jacket qualifies to a LAN. It may be 2 computers or 50 computers. You have a LAN.

For some reason, I always think about large number of computers with Cisco routers when it comes to networking. I have a Cisco router simulator and from time to time I run IOS commands to brush up my knowledge of Cisco.

I hope to take CCNP tests in the future.

By the way pixellany, you should not buy those things from a website like Amazon. If it does not work, you lose your money. If you bought from a local dealer, it would be possible to make a deal so you could return it.

I hope someone else will suggest me simple solution.

I don't want to make a server. It should be like my monitor; there is a simple keyboard combination to change the computers.

I think there are switches to change the computers so you could use your printer just using some keyboard combination.

rweaver 01-20-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gins (Post 3414991)
In networking terminology, we have a LAN at home. Everything connected to your wall jacket qualifies to a LAN. It may be 2 computers or 50 computers. You have a LAN.


For some reason, I always think about large number of computers with Cisco routers when it comes to networking. I have a Cisco router simulator and from time to time I run IOS commands to brush up my knowledge of Cisco.

LAN- Local Area Network ;) It's still a network. Most businesses only have LANs too.

To answer your question however, what you need is called a print server, it's a simple networking device that plugs into your network and your printer and lets any connected computer on the network print to the printer. I think the cheapest one I've ever used that worked was a netgear ps101 mini print server and I got it on sale for ~$50. You can also find routers/switches with print servers built in for a bit more money (usually ~75-200) although I can't vouch for the reliability of them or quality.

The cheapest option is just setup one computer to share the printer, you won't find any prices cheaper than "free".

Gins 01-20-2009 09:25 AM

Thanks rweaver

Do you want me to make server?

If I want to make printer server, this is not a big job.

I don't want to make a network. I don't want to make a server.

I just want a switch in which I could change the computers for a single printer.

Now I have two computers. I mean at the moment of writing two computers are running.

The following command just switches the computers.

[ Scroll Lock(twice) + Enter]

I bought a switch made by Deltaco; the above key combination changes the computer.

This has nothing to do either with networking or routing.

I am looking for a switch similar to the above so I can change the computer.

TB0ne 01-20-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gins (Post 3415064)
Thanks rweaver

Do you want me to make server?

If I want to make printer server, this is not a big job.

I don't want to make a network. I don't want to make a server.

I just want a switch in which I could change the computers for a single printer.
Now I have two computers. I mean at the moment of writing two computers are running.
The following command just switches the computers.
[ Scroll Lock(twice) + Enter]
I bought a switch made by Deltaco; the above key combination changes the computer.

This has nothing to do either with networking or routing.

I am looking for a switch similar to the above so I can change the computer.

Not meaning to sound bad, but those switches haven't been practical for more than 10 years. This is 2009, and if you've got multiple PC's and a router/switch, you've got a network already, no matter what you want to call it. Setting up one Linux PC with a printer attached isn't hard, and (providing your have the PC and printer), free.

Network printing is the way to go, and eliminates alot of problems. What if two people tried to print at the same time? How do you send the "scroll-lock twice and enter" sequence from OpenOffice or MS Word? Much easier just to print to the network device, and let the print server do what it does....

Gins 01-20-2009 11:56 AM

TBOne wrote the following:

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Not meaning to sound bad, but those switches haven't been practical for more than 10 years.
I would agree with you. There may be some problems. I could tell you about my own experiences. The switch I bought for the purpose of switching computers is not working properly.

It does not support DVI interface and I can't adjust the height, width, etc. Some icons at the bottom of the screen are partially hidden.

In order to change computers I press Scroll Lock twice and Enter. Sometimes changing process gives some strange problems.


My monitor is very modern and the switch is old; this is a part of the problem.

I talked to the shop where I bought the switch. They told me the state of the art switch is the solution and they could order one for me. The cost is about 225 dollars.

I have spoken to the manufactures of the switch on the phone. They are aware of the problems and suggested the latest model.

Needles to say, to make a server is the simple solution. Then the server computer should always be on to get the printer function.

inspiron_Droid 01-20-2009 12:09 PM

225 usd sound out ragious espicially whe i was able to grab a Liknskey KVM swithc from tigerdirect for 35.00.

Gins 01-20-2009 12:20 PM

FloridaBSD

The switch you bought is not compatible with DVI.

You have VGI, haven't you?

pixellany 01-20-2009 02:25 PM

Suddenly we're talking about KVM switches!!! What could that possibly have to do with sharing a printer among multiple computers?:scratch::scratch:

I am not going to try and read all the details here, but: Was the Belkin switch for less than US$30 a reasonable solution?

jay73 01-20-2009 02:35 PM

Yeah, it sounds like someone is confused about "switches". In order to network, you will need a regular switch, not a KVM switch, which is used to share keyboard-video-mouse among multiple computers.

Gins 01-20-2009 03:15 PM

jay73

Could you suggest me a switch?

I mean the exact details.

1. A switch to connect 4 computers to one printer.

2. Do you know a so-called kvm switch to connect two computers to
one monitor? Could you tell me the exact model?

It should support DVI.

If you suggest świtches, I could ask a dealer to get them for me.

jay73 01-20-2009 04:36 PM

Here are a few samples from two shops where I buy most of my stuff (Dutch but most items have details in English); I imagine that prices In Germany will be about the same.

Printserver combined with 4-port switch (but only 10/100Mbs transfer speed supported, which is rather slow (about 12.5MB/s) if you need to transfer many large files); never had any problem with products from this manufacturer:
http://www.cool-prices.nl/Producten/...1x%20USB%201.1)
Here is a gigabit (1000Mbs) switch that supports up to 8 computers BUT it does not have printserver functionality (AFAIK, none of the affordable gigabit switches do):
http://www.komplett.be/k/ki.aspx?sku=315249

KVM switches that support DVI are a lot harder to find that ones that support VGA but here are a few:

KVM with DVI support and USB for keyboard & mouse (2 computers):
http://www.cool-prices.nl/Producten/...20KVM%20Switch
http://www.cool-prices.nl/Producten/...%20(F1DG102DEA)

KVM with DVI & PS2 for keyboard & mouse (2 computers):
http://www.cool-prices.nl/Producten/...20KVM%20Switch

Note that KVM switches to control more than 2 computers exist as well but they rarely support DVI; the ones that do are considerably more expensive:
http://www.komplett.be/k/ki.aspx?sku...ed#ProductTabs

Btw, you may need to buy network cables separately.


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