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Old 09-05-2009, 10:05 AM   #1
iphigenie
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Unhappy Somehow installing Crossover broke Wine which was working?


Note: This is on Slackware 13 if it makes any difference.

(Note: I am quite clued up about the CLI/text/server bits of linux but once it gets to Xorg or sound I'm quite clueless)

1. I had installed the wine that comes in slackbuilds, 1.1.24
I tried a few programs and for example World of Warcraft worked straight from the directory where I installed it from Windows - I would see the graphics, and I played it. It was playable indeed, apart from a few animation glitches, without even changing to openGL. No sound, though, but at least I had graphics.

Tried a few settings, trying to change the order of sound cards in alsa etc. but no luck

2. Because it had no sound and also to see if perhaps some other programs which don't work (eg: acdsee pro) I went to get a demo of first crossover office, then crossover games.

WoW worked fine in crossover office, but still no sound (no luck with acdsee, incidentallyIirc). If I recall correctly I installed that one centrally (from root, not under a user)

3. Then I tried crossover games. In there, WoW doesn't even show the 3D graphics (black screen with just 2d elements showing). I dont know what is different but I noticed it did download directx so perhaps it is that. I know that I installed this one under my user.

The strange thing is, I now have the same problem in Wine that worked before - black screen with only the 2d interface showing.

I tried uninstalling/reinstalling wine, building a newer version, nothing fixes it. I must now suspect that crossover games changed some configuration which wine also looks at.

Just asking here in case someone has had that problem and knows what dumb thing I have done.

My next step is to delete all my user's wine and crossover files, and try again.

Note: this is all without installing WoW within either wine or crossover , just running it straight from disk

(of course I will ask in wine and crossover forums too, and report any solution)
 
Old 10-03-2009, 04:18 PM   #2
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I have a good bit of experience using CX and wine concurrently.

1) First, I'd like to say that, generally speaking, the installation of one or the other should not effect the first one installed.

2) As a corollary to the 1st, if something you install is depended on by one or both, changing that [even if through the installation of the other] WOULD have an effect on both.

I wonder what versions you are using of both WINE and CXoffice.

When I installed both, I installed WINE and CXoffice by downloading the most recent .deb and dpkg or aptitude. Anyways, that was on Debian. I'm not sure whether you use .rpm or .deb or neither....

I hope that generally sheds some light on your situation. It *should* not be one affecting the other but rather some other thing that somehow affected both.

As some examples.

CX and WINE use madeupname#1. madeupname#1 is a library or other dependency on the system. It, being changed, causes a problem with a 3d game installed on either wine or cx [3d games being *very* tempermental in both].

OK: There is another possibility. I have "broken" applications that were working *within* Wine or CX by installing a program [windows program] or utility/system file [etc; also windows]. OK, here's the problem with that being YOUR problem: you would to have had to install something on both systems.....

Anyways, that's all I have for you: My recommendation: completey remove *both*, *delete* the .cxoffice / .wine directories too [whatever they are called on ur computer]. Then reinstall. Try to find as recent versions as you can for both. I would do a compile on both if possible if a package is not available for ur distro

Important note to bear from this post: CX and WINE are SEPARATE ENTITIES. They may share dependencies, but that is as far as they go. Generally what happens with one should *not* effect the other. If you draw nothing else from post, please understand that.
 
  


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