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Old 05-26-2003, 01:18 AM   #1
sridharinfinity
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Unhappy Slower Games


Hi,

Linux is better than windows. Linux is the most ideall os. But the development for games are slow. When I rull tuxracer on my rh8 system, it was very slower. Even Quake was slower.

This might be the library problem. But i don't know. Is there any other way. If you say rh distribution is the problem, it was sad. You can also suggest some other suggestions that keeps the rh system from away.

By the way, I also beginning game developer, writing games using the allegro library.
 
Old 05-26-2003, 03:43 AM   #2
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Are you sure your using the right driver for your graphic card?
Else, you must upgrade and configure X !



Cheers, Klod
 
Old 05-26-2003, 07:29 AM   #3
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I've read that Slackware is a better distribution for gaming than Redhat - but I'm a Redhat user, so I can't say for sure.
 
Old 05-26-2003, 07:30 AM   #4
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my guess is that you are not using the right drivers... be sure to install the right drivers for linux and dont forget to edit you XF86Config....
 
Old 05-26-2003, 10:27 AM   #5
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I concur, check your drivers... I've just gotten Quake 3 to work on my machine and I was impressed by the graphics and the speed. Easily the same as my windows installation of Quake 3. If either is faster it couldn't be by more than a few FPS (I haven't bothered to measure).
 
Old 05-26-2003, 10:55 AM   #6
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i am running fine with my copy of tux racer and quake - a Geforce 3 with the latest ia32 drivers from nvidia of course
 
Old 05-26-2003, 12:09 PM   #7
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Totally agree. Everyone had that problem cause of the drivers not installed.

What video card do you have?
Go check nvidias and get the linux driver for your card.
 
Old 06-03-2003, 01:55 AM   #8
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I am using

Asus v3800 video card (16mb vm)

:-)
 
Old 06-03-2003, 03:19 AM   #9
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you need hw acceleration

I have the same problem on several of my systems.
The problem is that your gfx card is not used with hardware acceleration, which makes it very very slow (tux racer slows to a crawl, right?)

Funny that some cards are now automatically supported (by for example red hat), as the "use hardware acceleration" is switched on (ATI Radeon), while others, that should be close enough (ATI Rage Mobility) does not allow you to activate this button at all.

I could not find the drivers yet to activate the hardware accel, which is a shame. There are many projects out there, DRI comes to mind and open GL, but I did not figure it out yet, what stands for what.
Does anyone know which steps to take to gfx hw accelerate a system (when the automatic config fails)?

Cheers

Markus
 
Old 06-03-2003, 03:44 AM   #10
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lol... nice story...
 
Old 06-03-2003, 01:14 PM   #11
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I have a pretty old machine - PII 400Mhz with a nVidia TNT card. I assumed that games run slow because of my old machine. Do you all think I just don't have the driver configured right? Mandrake 9.1 recognized my card and installed a driver, so I assumed it was ok.
 
Old 06-03-2003, 01:33 PM   #12
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I have about the same system as you only with the ancient ATI Rage 128. Even with the old graphics card my games (tuxracer, quake, etc.) are as much as five times faster in Linux than in Windows 98SE with DirectX 9. After upgrading to ATI Radeon 9000, things are REALLY fast.
Of course, things are really slow if you can't use hardware acceleration with your card. Also, those who think their games are too slow should see what other processes are running. As a normal user, run "top" to see what processes are taking up the most processor cycles. As root, run "service --status-all" to see what services are running. If lots of CPU intensive processes are running alongside a game, the game will be slowed.
 
Old 06-03-2003, 01:41 PM   #13
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doubt it is, Mandrake probably only installed the drivers that come with XFree86. Though they'll happily draw pictures on the screen, the NVidia drivers are better at supporting the hardware of the card. The TNT is the oldest card that is still supported under there unified drivers for linux.

HTH

Alex
 
Old 06-04-2003, 02:15 AM   #14
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How you can tell if you have HW acceleration

Okey, this is a simple test that make you see if your gfx card is used 100% or without hardware acceleration:

Fire up some of these fancy screenblanker that come with gnome (sometimes they also work in KDE) and watch.

If you have an ATI Rage 128 or Nvidia TNT, that stuff should be pretty smooth and soft moving. If you got "jerking terrible", then you don't got hw accel.
It is actually funny, but the cpu can be whatever it might, gfx will still be jerky if the gfx does not run on hw accel.
I have a 1 ghz AMD and that thing still jerked crazily. Then I got a gfx card for which RedHad had Hardware accelerated drivers and bang, fluent, liquid.
Especially watch the 3d screenblankers, they show it the best because they are thoughest to display.
It's really quite sad, because the gfx card could do soooo much more than this terrible "frame, another frame, frame, another frame..." that dates back to the beginning of moving pictures.
Even a Nvidia TNT is pretty decent for simple things. I remember playing a marvelous game some years back on a TNT and so I don't think that it is so much a matter of CPU power or gfx power, IT IS THE HW enabled driver.

The hardware acceleration makes things fluid, smooth moving.

I gotta find out how this whole thing works together, X - opengl, DRI (if it is in the equation)
 
Old 02-09-2004, 12:07 AM   #15
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need to install quake 3 how ?
can i use my windows quake 3 cd
 
  


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