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Xeratul 12-21-2013 11:19 AM

Native "Age of Empires II : The Age of Kings PC" without WINE
 
Hi

Some about 15 years ago, ages of king was released:
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/jeux/pc/000...e-of-kings.htm

Still there is no native program that allows to play it under Linux.

Wine is slow and buggy. Dosbox cannot play it.

It would be superb if the dream of playing this game native on Linux could be made possible.

After Half-life 1, why not Ages of Kings.

Many thanks
Xe.

TobiSGD 12-21-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5085103)
After Half-life 1, why not Ages of Kings.

Simple answer: Halflife was developed and published by Valve, a Linux friendly company.
Age of Empires is published by Microsoft games. Do I need to say more?

Xeratul 12-22-2013 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 5085299)
Simple answer: Halflife was developed and published by Valve, a Linux friendly company.
Age of Empires is published by Microsoft games. Do I need to say more?

I still believe that a lot of users (gamers) would be pleased to play it under Linux

Exult - like or prboom - like...

sycamorex 12-22-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5085348)
I still believe that a lot of users (gamers) would be pleased to play it under Linux

That's not the point. Nobody is questioning that statement. Tobi just provided you a logical reason why it hasn't happened.

Xeratul 12-22-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 5085351)
That's not the point. Nobody is questioning that statement. Tobi just provided you a logical reason why it hasn't happened.

Sure MS concurrence. However, it might be eventually possible. Problem is directx, one problem of many.

sycamorex 12-22-2013 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5085354)
Sure MS concurrence. However, it might be eventually possible. Problem is directx, one problem of many.

Another problem might be licensing - As Microsoft is a publisher of that game, I'm sure they would be ecstatic about letting the Linux guys create a clone:)

Xeratul 12-22-2013 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 5085361)
Another problem might be licensing - As Microsoft is a publisher of that game, I'm sure they would be ecstatic about letting the Linux guys create a clone:)

It is not a clone but you use the cdrom into a native viewer/player/runner, as would do Exult or prboom.

metaschima 12-22-2013 10:57 AM

The game has a platinum rating (the best) using wine 1.6:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ication&iId=99
I don't think you can ask for more than that.

dugan 12-25-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5085348)
Exult - like or prboom - like...

Exult was made by reverse engineering the DOS game, and it's notably imperfect. Playing Ultima 7 under DosBox will give you a better experience.

prboom is a port of a game that was open-sourced in the first place. Is Age of Empires open source? No.

Xeratul 12-28-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by metaschima (Post 5085515)
The game has a platinum rating (the best) using wine 1.6:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ication&iId=99
I don't think you can ask for more than that.

ah ah. You still dont know that the rating on the wine website is fake. You have to submit your rating and they control or neglect them. Enjoy wine "corruption" ;)

metaschima 12-28-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5088151)
ah ah. You still dont know that the rating on the wine website is fake. You have to submit your rating and they control or neglect them. Enjoy wine "corruption" ;)

So, you are running this version of wine and have problems ? If so, describe the problems, look for solutions, post a new rating yourself.

I don't see why they would fake ratings on there. They are a non-profit project and have nothing to gain from doing this. I've posted reviews there too, and have submitted patches and fixes.

Xeratul 12-28-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by metaschima (Post 5088152)
So, you are running this version of wine and have problems ? If so, describe the problems, look for solutions, post a new rating yourself.

I don't see why they would fake ratings on there. They are a non-profit project and have nothing to gain from doing this. I've posted reviews there too, and have submitted patches and fixes.

Wine has difficulty to maintain Ages of Empires, because of MS constantly changing progs.

They are a non-profit project, and they do gain to post fake rating. Of course, they have gain. This is why we have playonlinux to overcome the problems of wine. Try it, you will see that you can install it but it remains "garbage" or just installable. This can be applied to many games on wine, not necessarily this one. What I do not like is that they control the reports of users, and they are not especially a friendly devel. Look for other alternatives such as playonlinux... <-- which I recommend. http://www.playonlinux.com/en/

metaschima 12-28-2013 01:13 PM

So basically, this is just a rant and you're not really interested in finding a solution ?

TobiSGD 12-28-2013 02:25 PM

PlayOnLinux is nothing more than a wrapper for Wine, so how again are they an alternative? Without Wine there wouldn't even be a PlayOnLinux.

GlennsPref 12-28-2013 05:05 PM

Well, you could play it natively on windows xp (in a virtualBox)


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