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Old 10-01-2003, 08:46 PM   #1
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3d with ATI


Mmkay, this might be more apt in the Laptops forum, but I figured this is games, and I should grace ti with one of my rambling posts. Here goes:

I have an ATI Mobility Radeon IGP, under Mandrake 9.2RC2. How do I get 3d drivers for it? I want to use it in a UT lan game, and, sadly, high rez, low fps isn't conducive to winning. I'm running Windows UT under wine, so it's already one step behind. I also want to run some other 3d appz, but no 3d under linux is starting to bug me, since this laptop runs soooo much better under linux then windoze. So, any help here with 3d?
 
Old 10-02-2003, 02:35 AM   #2
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Well, to activate 3d you need to do a lot of things. I have an ATI Radeon 345 in my laptop but I didn't yet probe it.
First of all you have to patch your agpgart. Using google you'll find it. Next you have to patch your XFree. I suggest you to visit dri.sourceforge.net and read the documentation. This is the only way...
 
Old 10-02-2003, 06:28 AM   #3
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Have a look at http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314

How familiar are you with compiling things?
 
Old 10-02-2003, 03:35 PM   #4
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i just recently got my radeon 9700pro working after a week or so of trying... i'm really new to linux so i'm not sure if you want my help or not...

i'm betting mandrake 9.2 comes with xfree86 4.3 so if you goto ati's site u should be able to download the appropriate drivers... before you install that, get the kernel source / kernel headers for your distro/version... i simply used rpm -ihv <rpm source filename> then after that was finished i did the same for the ati drivers...

sorry if this doesn't help you much, but after that i was able to use all the 3d games that're bundled w/ rh9... i'm stuck on trying to get winex to run now, but i'm just happy i got 3d working finally...

hope that helped somewhat!

Kevin
 
Old 10-03-2003, 01:23 AM   #5
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never recompiled anything but those stupid programs for my CSIT class :-p. I have never done a kernel recompile, althought I've wantd to try it.. I get in under the hood and mess with things alot, although the whole kernel thing has me erring on the cautious side. (I'm more a hardware g33k.) Also i've only been using linux for 2 years or so, and there's still alot of the underlying things I just simply don't know.

Now, I was thinking that I could just pick an ATI card driver similaire, and try it.. does that work? Also, can someone give me a close approximations of what really would be involved in this? Maybe a walkthrough? Play by play? Instructions? Breadcrumbs?

I'm going to have 2 days solid to play come monday, and I really really want to play chromium some more.. and the LAN party's coming up in a week or so... and I really want windoze gone... more HD space :-D!!
 
Old 10-04-2003, 01:57 AM   #6
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Since you are a hardware g33k... The key here is the chipset of the card... If you have any R200+ card, then you can safely run the fgrlx module which provide the ATi drivers (not too fast, mind you). You need:
  • Your kernel sources, as KeTrueno told you. You may find them (for Mandy) under one of you CD's or get into the control center and bring up whatever tool Mandy uses for Software Management.
  • Get the driver (if and only if you run an R200+ card!) from ATi. Otherwise get the DRI's project drivers at the DRI's page.
  • Switch to run-level 3 (or whatever Mandrake uses for Console only, Multiuser environment) Install the ATi drivers (as root) with:
    Code:
    # rpm -ivh --force fglrx*
    Pay close attention to any messages regarding a module being loaded, so if you get something like this module loaded with warnings don't worry, those warnings are because the driver will taint the kernel, because they are not GPLed (in contrast with the DRI's drivers).
  • Run the script fglrxconfig, try to start X. If you were unsuccessful the first time try to edit by hand your XF86Config file. Only if you've done so before and know what you are doing, otherwise post back your output or errors. You may switch back to the VESA driver in XF86Config to get X back on working (2D only).
  • In the event you go the DRI way, just get the daily builds, un-tar them, compile them, install them č voilą:
    Code:
    # tar -zxvf <tarball>.tar.gz
    or
    # tar -jxvf <tarball>.tar.bz2
    # cd <tarballname>
    # ./configure --help <-- Alwasy do it!
    # ./configure --radeon <-- or what ever you need to write for the Readeon driver
    # make
    # make install
    Now you should make sure you are using the radeon driver in XF86Config, so you will need to open it and search for the driver (most likely you are already using it), so it would be safe to just start X
  • Again if any errors come up, plese post back the output.
Will that do?
 
Old 10-04-2003, 11:46 AM   #7
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Well, I'm going to try that come monday, or so. However, in advance, thank you. I'll let yo know how it goes.
 
Old 10-04-2003, 01:41 PM   #8
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Remember to post back any problems!
 
Old 10-10-2003, 08:53 PM   #9
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Well, it's taken me longer to get to it than I thought it would. I just tried the DRI method, and now, X is broken .

I downloaded the "radeon" dri packages, and installed them from a command line, and it all looked good. I tried startx, and X crashed, saying "(EE) No Devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens detected."

At First, I thought this was a problem with my display, but I quickly realized that I could start x if I loaded the "vesa" driver. I then figured I'd try the r200 drivers, since that's what I load from HP. *sigh* same thing.

Accourding to both Linux and Windows, I have a " ATI Radeon IGP 340M". Now, this whole X thing is kinda important, as I no longer run Windows on the laptop. Right now I can start X with the "vesa" driver (which irronically loads faster than the old radeon driver", however I have 3d Cad programs that need openGL.. and I'd like to play my games too .
 
Old 10-10-2003, 09:07 PM   #10
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Actually, I just searched www.google.com/linux and I found a suse mailing forum that had a link to radeon drivers that support the IGP 340M in 2D, which is what I think I was running. I loaded those, and X is back to the way it was before.. no 3d Support, but working 2d (and it's faster than before, These might have been better drivers.)

So, is 3d on this guy a lost cause? I mean, is it really a driver issue? Any other ideas? *Now that I know how to fix it, I'm more confident about breaking it. I have the old files backed up, as well as my XF86Config-4*
 
Old 10-10-2003, 09:11 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by pavgust
Have a look at http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314

How familiar are you with compiling things?
Well, here's my 3rd post in such a short span of time. I just followed that link (I erm.. saw the word compile, and got scared.) Well, I'd actually be willing to try a kernel compile, since I've never done it, and I have an open weekend. I really don't know how to do it though, or what the heck a .diff file is, or how to use it. If someone wants to walk me though making a new kernel, sure, I'm game. If not.. well.. *shrugs* I ain't got games.....

I feel like it's time for this: Lol. And I've been using linux for about 2 years now.. jeeze...

Any and all help is appreciated!
 
Old 10-10-2003, 09:23 PM   #12
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doesnt schidner-digital (or whatever theyre called) have drivers for it?
 
Old 10-10-2003, 09:36 PM   #13
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Originally posted by LavaDevil94
doesnt schidner-digital (or whatever theyre called) have drivers for it?
Who? I'm not familiare with them.
 
Old 10-11-2003, 12:13 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by LavaDevil94
doesnt schidner-digital (or whatever theyre called) have drivers for it?
Schneider-digital drivers moved from Germany to Canada, so the lattest official Radeon (R200+) are supplied by ATi. Just pay a visit to This page and download the lattest driver.... It won't be lightning fast, but it is quite compatible (I think it is the first company, speaking of nVidia, who support kernel 2.6.0-test6 in this set of drivers).
 
Old 10-11-2003, 10:29 AM   #15
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I have a Presario with IGP 320 and after kernel compile and XFree compile (with the right patches) everything is working very well it takes a little effort for a linux newbye (like me), but now i'm happy and satisfied...
 
  


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