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LFS is a project that provides you with the steps necessary to build your own custom Linux system.

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Old 06-18-2007, 07:17 AM   #1
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Where to start?


Having been a Linux user (that is a passive user who just wants a system that works) for many years I have always found something 'wrong' with every distro I have used. LFS seems the obvious choice for me to get my boxes working my way, and if they don't then it is my fault and my problem to correct.

I am starting by skimming through LFS, BLFS, CLFS and CBLFS to get an overview, then I plan to read, at least once, each book and the background info before I start, Next I plan to use the LiveCD to do a test install on a spare 32 bit box before I move onto installing my main system, 64 bit with 32 bit libraries, then perhaps using ALFS to build the rest of my boxes ( 6 of them). Am I being over cautious do you think? As most of my boxes are AMD64 and they will need 32 bit as well as 64 should I jump straight to CLFS?

I read in a post here that the LiveCD is no use for building a 64 bit OS, though the CLFS book says it can on a 64 bit box, is it safe to assume that the book is correct?

With regard to the LiveCD, I am looking for a torrent link to get it, none of my usual suspects seems to have it, the link from the LFS/LiveCD/download page links to bittorrent which does not have it and TLMP LiveCD Torrents which has lfs-packages-6.2.tar, I am assuming that this is not the LiveCD but I am d/l it anyway to see what it has, it is only 181Mb. I prefere to torrent it if I can as my internet connection is very flaky, anything over 100Mb tends to corrupt as a single d/l. Any pointers would be helpful.
 
Old 06-18-2007, 08:53 AM   #2
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Am I being over cautious do you think? As most of my boxes are AMD64 and they will need 32 bit as well as 64 should I jump straight to CLFS?
Yes. AMD64 is x86_64 and x86_64 is a multilib architecture; it's supposed to have both 32-bit and 64-bit libraries. The "Pure 64-bit" build on x86_64 can be flakey. Just start with a CLFS multilib build from the beginning on your x86_64 boxes. It will be easier on you in the long run because the multilibedness is built into the toolchain.

I use a multilib build on my x86_64 box. Only a few applications, like mplayer (for the codecs) and Firefox (for the plugins) are 32-bit. Except for dependency requirements for the aforementioned packages, everything else is 64-bit.

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I read in a post here that the LiveCD is no use for building a 64 bit OS, though the CLFS book says it can on a 64 bit box, is it safe to assume that the book is correct?
The book is correct. If you read closely, the book makes the following comment regarding the use of the LiveCD
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It does also contain source packages and patches for the LFS book, and a copy of the LFS book, but not the needed packages or book for CLFS. You can still use the CD for building CLFS, but you will need to download the packages, patches and book separately.
 
Old 06-18-2007, 10:29 AM   #3
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Many thanks for the swift reply.

I will probably still build a 32 bit box first, I have a 32 bit system sitting here lonely and neglected so I can practice while reading CLFS and then have a working box to use while doing my main 64 bit box.

I'll have another go at a normal d/l, perhaps I'll get lucky If it doesn't work I can order a disk of 6.2-3 in Germany which will make sure I read the books before starting
 
  


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