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Old 10-02-2005, 12:48 PM   #1
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What Host System gave you the Least Amount of Problems?


Hi guys. I normally dont work on my LFS system for long periods of time because of school and stuff, but whenever I have the time I flip back through my LFS book and start working on it again. Ocassionally I did a few stupid mistakes that ruined the whole system, so often times I found myself starting from scratch- I dont regret it, because I learn something new each and everytime


However... I kinda have Mandrake 10.1 Powerpack so yeah... much of my LFS system is destined to fail (As my first Linux distro, I rather aimlessly chose a distribution from some descriptions- didn't realize Mandrake is so buggy)


So I was wondering- what Host system did you use that provided all the tools necessary and gave you the least amount of problems? And for your distor, please include your method of installation (program categories installed/ inidividual package selection, ect.)


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Old 10-02-2005, 01:14 PM   #2
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Hmmmm... I did the HD-installed host sytem on my first LFS attempt. From then on, I used Live CDs: Knoppix and later the LFS live CD. Both of those will have everything you need to get LFS compiled and installed. What's more, you'll be able to use your full hard drive(s) for LFS rather than having a partition used for the host system.

The drawbacks can be rough though. As a Live CD, you just can't turn the machine off, come back a week later, turn it on, and continue right where you left off. At a minimum, you have to remount filesystems, remake the LFS variable, and in later chapters, do chroot and other operations. It may not be the ideal choice for someone in your situation. But, if you have a free weekend to spare and are dedicated, you could get LFS complete, and get a working GUI with BLFS in one or two days (depending on your machine).

Anyway, back to your original question: Knoppix and the LFS live CD are the ones I use. I'd go with the LFS CD if you try either of them because it loads a minimal X window environment, includes a browser (so you can copy-paste command from the web-based LFS book), and it includes all the tarballs you need for the LFS install.
 
Old 10-02-2005, 08:05 PM   #3
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Which reminds me- I downloaded the LFS LiveCD but it got @#$%ed up (md5 didn't match )



I mean I could do it AGAIN but is there anywhere where they sell it? I think it would be more "convenient"



BTW: yeah, I always surf back through history to reset the LFS variable, remount the filesystem, and chroot into the enviroment- but I see your point... I would hate to type it out each time... then again- I could copy it out from the book




If I cant get the LFS Live CD, I'll get Knoppix.. cause Knoppix kicks butt (my first distro, but its rather old.. I can get the new Maxi Edition and have EVERYTHING- portable )
 
Old 10-02-2005, 08:34 PM   #4
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I don't think they sell it, but you could get on the IRC channel and ask if there was a way you could con someone into sending you a burned copy. You've got to figure whatever person they have working on it has to burn the CD to test it out every so often. Maybe they have a couple lying around they could mail to you. Just a thought.

A pointer from my own experience:
If you go the Live CD route, the computer you put LFS on will be connected to the network, and you want to follow some of the steps in BLFS, then I strongly recommend you snag the tarballs for wget (to download packages for BLFS), Xorg (or Xfree), and Mozilla/Firefox/whatever with the other LFS packages. Print up the instructions for each from the BLFS book, and then you can jump staight from finsihing LFS to installing the tools you need to get back online to read the BLFS book from your barebones system.

That's how I've done things the past couple times I installed LFS.

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Old 10-02-2005, 11:17 PM   #5
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But I have to update the kernel to 2.6 on it though.
 
Old 10-02-2005, 11:42 PM   #6
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What Host System gave you the Least Amount of Problems?
I've built 6 LFS/BLFS systems over the past few years, 5 using Slackware as the host and the most recent using the LFS liveCD 6.1...........the Live CD was a great Idea, the LFS people should be commended for it!!
 
Old 10-03-2005, 04:18 PM   #7
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I recently finished LFS 6.1 and I'm installing packages mostly from BLFS 6.1. I used the LFS LiveCD 6.1 and the package user system described in the hints section. I also used the hint for installing LFS 6.1 using the LiveCD.

I like the package user system, especially the scripts included with it that help log and detect errors in each stage of the installation process. It's also nice because a preformatted .project file is in each pkguser home directory that you can use to help journal the issues you came across during the installation of each package like the errors you got or what versions of dependencies you built it with or for what other package you built it for as a dependency. I also keep a running text journal of everything I install and whatever problems/issues I came across.
 
Old 10-03-2005, 05:54 PM   #8
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Well I ordered a copy of the LFS LiveCD 6.1 from linuxcd.org - cost 2 bucks and comes down to 3.89 with shipping- will be in soon



Just a question... I'm gonna have to come back it it every now and then to finish it up. I know I have to reset the LFS variable, remount the system, and chroot into the enviroment but WITHIN the chroot enviroment- do I have to remount the Virtual Kernel File Systems (chap 6.2 and 6.8)?


I would think so- since it's not permanent and I'd need them when building the system...
 
Old 10-04-2005, 09:17 AM   #9
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Read this hint:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hint...rom-livecd.txt

He gives you a couple of scripts and simple procedures for entering the special build environment for chapter 5 and the chroot environment for chapter 6. You follow his simple steps everytime you come back to your LFS build.
 
Old 10-06-2005, 11:42 AM   #10
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Ubuntu 5.04

Hi,

I have installed LFS using Ubuntu 5.04 as host. I think I did not face any problem due to host if I followed the book. If you shutdown and restart you have to remount proc, sys. Then chroot and mount tmpfs before starting the build from where you left.

I am also building BLFS by chroot on the host system without any problem.

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