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07-15-2005, 11:54 PM
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install livecd to hard drive?
Is there an easy way to install the livecd to the hard drive and use it native so it will save my changes when I configure X and whatnot?
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07-16-2005, 01:13 AM
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Yes, you can most certainly do that. Any instructions can be found on the site for the live cd that you have.
If your using knoppix you can find instructions here:
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page
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07-16-2005, 01:27 AM
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Oops.. maybe I goofed.. I'm using a product that is called "linux from scratch".. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org that has its own special live cd with all the building blocks and instructions.. Is this forum for just generally building linux from scratch, or the specific "distribution" I'm using, if that is indeed what it is? I'm not sure but I think it is based on redhad.. it does that [ ok ] thing during bootup
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07-16-2005, 01:42 AM
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Yes LFS is for building linux from scratch. The live cd (like with Gentoo) is usually very minimal and is used to help ease the process a bit. You'll have to do all the configurations yourself. It's a very long (one day to one week install) and arduous process not for the faint of heart, but also a very good learning experience.
I would suggest you try another live cd instead i.e:
Morphix
Knoppix
Ubuntu
Slax
Kanotix
PCLinuxOS
etc...
Have a look here for more:
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
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All the best to you
Last edited by cuiq; 07-16-2005 at 01:47 AM.
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07-16-2005, 01:51 AM
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I am only using the LFS livecd because it's all tested to work together and whatnot, and I can follow the instructions exactly.. if you think I should use a different distribution anyway, then I probably won't use a livecd.. My flavor of the week for installed linux is Minislack, and it supposedly comes with all the compilers and whatnot, so maybe I could give that a try? But the LFS live cd does seem to be very well put together, so I was hoping to be able to install it, but I can't even find a mention of installing it..
My session locked up while compiling binutils, so I'm going to have to start from scratch again anyway.. bleh
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07-16-2005, 02:47 AM
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I've never installed LFS I have read the documentation, however I have installed Gentoo and the documentation is very very good. I must admit that there is a certain satisfaction installing linux from scratch as these two distros offer.
So with that I say dig in and go for it.
You may have already come across it, but this site gives more info. I believe.
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/live...mentation.html
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07-21-2005, 12:24 PM
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: SE Tennessee, USA
Distribution: Gentoo, LFS
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As its name implies, LinuxFromScratch is different from "other distros" in that it is designed to teach you how a Linux system is actually built ... from the ground up, using nothing but sources. As such, it does not automatically use "packages" like most other distributions do.
When you get a typical distribution, what you are getting is (for the most part) the binaries that someone else, namely the distributor, has pre-compiled for you. Installing the system is basically a process of installing the requisite packages, which are designed to automatically deal with issues such as putting things into the right place, checking for co-requisite and pre-requisite packages, and running any installation-scripts. Per contra, LinuxFromScratch is specifically designed not to do this "for you," but rather, to "show you how."
As you gain experience with Linux, you will probably start out with a different distro and move-to LFS at a later time. Starting out with LFS, right from the get-go, might be appropriate if you have plenty of spare hair.
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07-21-2005, 05:30 PM
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No no, I've got that much.. I've been messing with linux for 10 years, but never long enough to really "get it" so LFS is ideal for me.. What I was getting at is that LFS provides a livecd that has all the compilers in place, and it has all the source tgz's already collectect in one place, so I figured that's as good an environment as any. But the problem is that once you get about 1/3 of the way into it, you do stuff like customizing the .bash_profile and .bashrc, but these files are only in memory on a ramdrive or something, so when I reboot all those environment changes went *poof*.. that's why I wanted to install the livecd to hard drive.. I got all messed up and had to start over, but the process takes sooo long I figured it'd happen again
Anyway, I just installed minislack and mounted the livecd to use the sources packages, and I'm starting section 6, and all is well
Last edited by jmille34; 07-21-2005 at 08:27 PM.
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