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Old 07-22-2015, 12:17 PM   #1
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Low cost nema ts2 rated embedded devices - Any?


I've been searching the net for weeks and know that sometimes, all it takes is a post in the right forum and you find those hidden secrets you simply can't find by searching .

I am trying to find a nema ts2 rated embedded device to be used in northern outdoor locations. The units would be mounted inside of weatherproof cabinets so would not be exposed to rain but they would be exposed to very hot and cold cycles.

Other than TS2 rated, I need only one Ethernet port, one USB port and depending on price, a fair number of GPIO's, which would eliminate the need for external attachments. The GPIOs would be used for pretty basic things such as temp/moisture, voltage sensing, relay controls.

The OS should be Linux, either allowing me to run which ever flavor I need or at worse, I could probably use what ever is available for the unit assuming it is standard allowing me to add what ever I need for packages.
I currently use openwrt a lot but the packages aren't always up to date or even available and that becomes complicated.

I'll need quite a lot of these so am trying to keep the price under $100 per unit. so far, everything I find is in the hundreds with every little add on an expensive one.

I know these things don't come cheap but I've lucked out so many times in the past by asking in forums, maybe someone knows of something/s that might do the job.

Thank you kindly for any help you can offer.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 02:31 PM   #2
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Wouldn't that be the cabinet and not the SOM that needs to be TS2? Such as this product?

Note that most temperature, moisture, and voltage sensors are I2C or SPI interfaces, not merely GPIO. Just my humble experience in dealing with embedded sensors. Maybe I'm incorrect in that, there are a variety of sensory devices out there and typically for stuff like that I see I2C as the interface.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 02:34 PM   #3
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What I'm saying is the the device would go into that cabinet but it still needs to be rated to handle the extreme temps.
Yes, there are many types of sensors, I don't have anything specific in mind, was just saying I could use GPIOs if there were some
 
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OK, I'm unsure if there are specific SOMs which are rated exactly for that. But if you know the environmental parameters, you likely can find ARM based SOMs that you can use. Such as the Hummingboard, BeagleBoard, or Raspberry Pi. I like the Hummingboard.

Many of the ARM modules are fanless and can withstand the normal commercial or industrial temperature ranges.

Those would be low cost. Otherwise there are suppliers for SOMs which can provide more specialized modules. InHand comes to mind. I've worked with their stuff and stop by to say hello when I visit embedded systems shows, they once showed me a military grade tablet, beyond IP67 and they smashed at the touchscreen with the claw side of a hammer. To no effect excepting me screaming "Don't do that!!!!", it was impressive. Either case, their CPU solution was really what was embedded in there. It of course had to withstand a lot more stringent standards than anything industrial.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 04:49 PM   #5
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Nema TS2 is -34 to +65C I believe.

I like your description of being at the tech show LOL.

Good leads, I knew there were things out there I had not found. One thing I failed to mention is that a lot of times, the cabinets are in the middle on nowhere, everything powered by solar so power is a big big concerns.

The tp-links we're using for development for example run on next to nothing and are perfect in size, power and resources. I don't need much horsepower for CPU.

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Old 07-23-2015, 10:58 AM   #6
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Extremely low power, I'd instead go non-OS and use something like a Microchip PIC and then it would be drawing microamps instead of milliamps for power.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:18 AM   #7
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Sorry, I'm not sure what non-OS means? I'm assuming related to power? I do need an OS on it, Debian or some standard Linux where it won't be a nightmare trying to find packages let alone current updated ones too.

I've been using openwrt for development but it is sometimes frustrating because things aren't very well updated.
 
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I meant use a true embedded processor. No operating system. Sorry, doesn't sound like that will work for you.
 
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Good leads however so thanks for those. Still reading about the three leads. Nothing that seems to fit my needs in terms of nema rating but interesting devices which could be used in other projects.
 
  


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