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Old 03-23-2017, 09:16 PM   #1
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Any x86 chip with hdmi 2.0


I am looking for some sort of raspberry pi like board and I am having trouble finding exactly what I need.

Firstly, I would like it to be x86 and not ARM. This is because I want to use it partially for steam streaming and the client does not run on ARM. It will also have to support video decoding for this purpose.

Secondly, I would like it to have HDMI 2.0 so that I can play 4K content at 60Hz.

If anyone knows of a chip that can do all this please let me know. I'm hoping to do this project with an SBC instead of building an entire PC the old fashioned way.
 
Old 03-29-2017, 07:36 AM   #2
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Hi,

you'll also want h265 decoding (Up to you to know if you'll also need 10bit decoding).
My preferred choice these years for HTPC has been AMD hardware. From what I know, AMD Bristol Ridge series APUs should fit your needs (info. Personnally I'm waiting for Zen based APUs.
On the Intel side, you'll want to look at Skylake and newer.
 
Old 03-29-2017, 09:31 AM   #3
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Thanks for the advice.

You are certainly right that I want H.265 decoding.

I had initially looked at AMD apus but the issue is that you can't buy them yourself. You have to basically buy a $500 PC from Lenovo or HP. If I am going to be spending that much money, which I would like to avoid, then I might as well just buy a GTX 1050. That way I would get all the 4K support I want on any CPU and better graphics power.
 
Old 03-29-2017, 12:36 PM   #4
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So I was really hoping to do this with a really cheap sbc but it looks like that's not happening. I've decided to just build the PC. This is my build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jMPvCy
and these two parts that partpicker didn't have.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...79&ignorebbr=1
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...99&ignorebbr=1

If anyone knows of a way I can do this build for cheaper, let me know. It would be much appreciated.
 
Old 03-29-2017, 02:59 PM   #5
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The newer Intel chips may allow you to use HDMI 2 and 2.2 and maybe save cost of gpu board.

I've never really found a cheap way to get around performance. They seem to price it per spec and not supply and demand.

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Old 03-29-2017, 03:04 PM   #6
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It seems Bristol Ridge APUs are really not for available... That sucks.
As I said, I'm waiting for Zen-based APUs with UVD 7 and VCE 4. (I admit, I only need to upgrade an already existing box).

What you really want from an HTPC is
a) energy efficiency. ( < 50W at idle - measured at the outlet; that is my baseline)
b) silence. (The less fans the better)
c) reliability.

Trust me, I made mistakes with all of these, and would hate to repeat them.

Maybe not a cost saver, but silencer (maybe even energy saver): go for a picopsu. You'll probably need one with an 8 pin EPS connector. I know about this one : http://www.hd-plex.com/HDPLEX-160W-D...age-Input.html
As for the case, in my case the HTPC kept on expanding (hard drive wise and TV tuner wise) so that in the end I got this : http://www.thermaltake.com/products-...?id=C_00002291

Have you looked at the possibility of an intel build? It might be more energy efficient...
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:38 AM   #7
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Yeah I've looked in to Intel builds quite a bit and ultimately they are significantly more expensive. Better but more expensive.

Luckily though, I've discovered moonlight which works on ARM so I don't need the chip to be x86 anymore. I'm probably going to get an Odroid-C2 when they are back in stock. It should have all the requirements I need at under $100.
 
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To save money on an Intel build you could consider an Apollo Lake such as this. They're SOC boards and Apollo Lake is SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than it's atom predecessors, and has HD video codec abilities. Never done it myself, but it should work fine.

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Old 03-31-2017, 11:45 AM   #9
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Speking of intel, I just remembered that Intel NUC exists.
 
Old 04-04-2017, 12:36 PM   #10
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The Intel NUC is pretty sweet but the cheapest one with HDMI 2.0 is $300 before RAM and disk.
 
  


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