Why is there no forum for SuSE?????

SuSE is really good and popular.
A forum for SuSE is nessesary.

Originally posted by TheoZhang SuSE is really good and popular. A forum for SuSE is nessesary.

Well they don't seem to agree with adding one here. You should contact them yourself and get anyone you know to let SuSe know how you feel and how it would benefit you for them to participate on our site in adding a SuSe forum, etc.

Originally posted by jeremy After going back and forth a bit with SuSE I am sorry to report that they declined to participate at this time due to a lack of resources. If you'd like to see a SuSE forum here please contact SuSE and let them know that you feel it would be time well spent. I do request that if you contact them you be both respectful and polite. Thanks. http://www.suse.com/us/company/suse/contact/index.html --jeremy

I will surely contact them...

I still cannot see the NECESSITY of SuSE participating in this forum. I can surely see the postive side of it, but the fact that it cannot go through without them...it kind of kills the idealism of Linux and Open Source. The idea of the forum is for us the users, isn' it? Is it a problem were SuSE won't let US do it without them? What is this SuSE resource thing? Is it a SuSE guy that will monitor the forum every now and then? We'll survive without him!!! Is it software? What is the BIG issue? Sorry, but I still don't see it.

By the way, and not to be patronizing in any way: What resources have Debian extended to this forum?

What resources have Debian extended to this forum?

As in all the other distro forums here, members from the distro participate in the forums.

--jeremy

Originally posted by jeremy As in all the other distro forums here, members from the distro participate in the forums. --jeremy

OK, if they (I'm assuming "they" means the guys from Debian itself, not just users) didn't participate, or if they would stop participating...would the forum simply stop because they aren't participating anymore? What is the REAL added value to the forum that THEY bring that normal users couldn't provide???

What about the other questions?

Originally posted by vous OK, if they (I'm assuming "they" means the guys from Debian itself, not just users) didn't participate, or if they would stop participating...would the forum simply stop because they aren't participating anymore? What is the REAL added value to the forum that THEY bring that normal users couldn't provide??? What about the other questions?

We could have a Suse forum without representatives from Suse, but this is not how Jeremy prefers. Before he creates a specific forum, he wants the approval or a representative to make it somewhat official in a small kind of way, or big if they prefer.

I think Redhat has over 6 members signed up from the distribution as of now.
We have Patrick Volkerding as a member and we are Slackware's official forum now.
We also have Gerard Beekman from LFS, he's the creator who visits quite often and helps other members out.
Mandrake, well, the creator and some others from Mandrake are signed up to help out.

I think you can see where I'm going with this... but just cause the reps don't visit as often or stop visiting, doesn't mean the forum will be closed. But this is just the way LQ.org prefers to setup these specific Distribution forums.

Originally posted by trickykid We could have a Suse forum without representatives from Suse, but this is not how Jeremy prefers. Before he creates a specific forum, he wants the approval or a representative to make it somewhat official in a small kind of way, or big if they prefer. I think Redhat has over 6 members signed up from the distribution as of now. We have Patrick Volkerding as a member and we are Slackware's official forum now. We also have Gerard Beekman from LFS, he's the creator who visits quite often and helps other members out. Mandrake, well, the creator and some others from Mandrake are signed up to help out. I think you can see where I'm going with this... but just cause the reps don't visit as often or stop visiting, doesn't mean the forum will be closed. But this is just the way LQ.org prefers to setup these specific Distribution forums.

Wow... I don't know that. This makes LQ jump a few hundred notches in the coolness category.

SuSE may not allow download of their install ISOs but you can download a LIVE EVAL of 8.2 that runs from cd. A truly impressive product. It made an instant beltever out of me. I'd been running RH fror years but SuSE whips RH in ease of use and that IS important. I'm used to RH's way of doing things and am quite comfortable at the command line but I've found SuSE has more polished GUI tools than RH for configuring nearly everything. RH has it with time syncing via ntp and DHCP server setup but that's not enough to keep me considering how faultlessly SuSE supports my hardware. If more folks tried SuSE LIVE EVAL, the fact that the OS isn't free really wouldn't matter much. Debian may be stable but waiting for new releases that may or may not include the hardware support or other desired nicities is positively painful. New releases don't come along very often. SuSE is the Mandrake of Europe as far as I can tell. Designed for the desktop user every bit as much as for the corporate market.

Originally posted by Fred_Beondo [...] SuSE is the Mandrake of Europe as far as I can tell. Designed for the desktop user every bit as much as for the corporate market.

I know this is somehow off-topic but isn't Mandrake actually from Europe? France to be exact

So if SuSE is the Mandrake of Europe, then Mandrake must be the SuSE of Europe

OK. So MDK is from France and SuSE is from Germany. If the US didn't help out in WW2 France would be Germany. Anyway thanks for the correction.

Originally posted by Fred_Beondo OK. So MDK is from France and SuSE is from Germany. If the US didn't help out in WW2 France would be Germany. Anyway thanks for the correction.

LOL! Hope you didn't take it wrongly in any way... I was just messing with ya

Anyway, enough off-topic posts from me in this thread.

Originally posted by jeremy As in all the other distro forums here, members from the distro participate in the forums. --jeremy

thats cool and all... But since the answer is no from SuSE, will there be a SuSE forum? []Yes []No

I completely understand the deal, dont get me wrong, but if you have "your forum users" who would like to see one why not?

Just like vous stated:

I still cannot see the NECESSITY of SuSE participating in this forum. I can surely see the postive side of it, but the fact that it cannot go through without them...it kind of kills the idealism of Linux and Open Source. The idea of the forum is for us the users, isn' it?

Just a thought.

I'd have to say, in response to that, get your distro to realize how much it's users would enjoy having an OFFICIAL, and/or SUPPORTED forum from them. If their paying customers want something, I'd have to think it'd be in their best interest to take it seriously. Contact them, encourage others to contact them, let them know you are a loyal customer and would like to see an official support forum here on LQ from them. If the need is there..



Cool

Originally posted by MasterC I'd have to say, in response to that, get your distro to realize how much it's users would enjoy having an OFFICIAL, and/or SUPPORTED forum from them. If their paying customers want something, I'd have to think it'd be in their best interest to take it seriously. Contact them, encourage others to contact them, let them know you are a loyal customer and would like to see an official support forum here on LQ from them. If the need is there.. Cool

[]Yes or []No its simple.

What your saying is: Since SuSE wont join in They will be NO forum for this distro!

I have a tech forum and its odd to see this . I like LQ,org. So dont get me wrong. what your asking is for users to go a beg SusE to become a member here, otherwise you will simply not add a separate forum. If thats the way the board is run... Hey its your board. But at least come out and say it.

"Hey sorry guys since SusE will not play... we wont have a forum for you."

I only chiimed in cause I use this distro. Still think the board is cool and come here when I can. Good Luck though.

I am pretty sure that one of the reasons Suse doesn't want to participate in this is that they prefer to sell service contracts instead of having Suse people helping out for free.
I bought Suse a while back because it comes with support for setup just to find out that there is none.