What is Salix DM?

lattimro · 04-24-2024, 12:28 PM

Hi Folks,

who knows what Display Manager Salix use?
I tried: xdm, gdm, kdm, sddm, lightdm, lxdm nodm but these services are not available

Quote:

service list
acpid (The acpid service) : [on]
alsa (The Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) : [on]
alsa-oss (The alsa-oss service) : [off]
atd (The atd service) : [on]
atop (The atop service) : [off]
autofs (The autofs service) : [on]
avahidaemon (Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon) : [on]
bind (The BIND (Domain Name System) server) : [off]
bluetooth (The bluetooth service) : [on]
cgred (The cgred service) : [off]
clamav (The clamav service) : [on]
cpufreq (The cpufreq service) : [on]
crond (Background/timed job scheduling system) : [on]
cups (The CUPS print spooler/server) : [on]
cups-browsed (The cups-browsed service) : [off]
elogind (The elogind service) : [on]
fuse (The fuse service) : [on]
fuse3 (The fuse3 service) : [on]
haveged (A simple entropy daemon) : [on]
inetd (The BSD Inetd daemon) : [off]
ip_forward (Activate IP packet forwarding) : [off]
kadmind (The kadmind service) : [off]
kpropd (The kpropd service) : [off]
krb5kdc (The krb5kdc service) : [off]
loop (The loop service) : [on]
messagebus (The DBUS system) : [on]
mysqld (The MySQL database server) : [off]
networkmanager (The networkmanager service) : [on]
nfsd (The Network File System daemon) : [on]
ntpd (The Network Time Protocol service) : [on]
pcmcia (The pcmcia service) : [off]
postfix (The Postfix mail server) : [on]
postgresql (The postgresql service) : [on]
pulseaudio (The pulseaudio service) : [on]
rpc (The RPC portmapper daemon) : [on]
samba (The Samba SMB file server) : [off]
saslauthd (The SASL authentication server) : [off]
sendmail (The Sendmail mail server) : [off]
setterm (The setterm service) : [on]
smartd (The smartd service) : [off]
snmpd (The Simple Network Management Protocol service) : [off]
sshd (The SSHD (secure shell) daemon) : [on]
syslog (The Linux system logging server) : [on]
sysstat (The sysstat service) : [off]
udev (The UDEV dynamic device manager system) : [on]
vnstat (The vnstat service) : [on]
wsdd2 (The wsdd2 service) : [off]
xrdp (The xrdp service) : [on]

wpeckham · 04-24-2024, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lattimro

Hi Folks,

who knows what Display Manager Salix use?
I tried: xdm, gdm, kdm, sddm, lightdm, lxdm nodm but these services are not available

#1 it is based upon SLACKWARE so any desktop you can use on SLACKWARE should be available and work.

#2 if you look on the about page at the salix.org web site the first line in the about text starts:

Quote:

There are six editions of Salix; the Xfce, MATE, LXDE, Fluxbox, KDE and Ratpoison editions, each edition featuring the respective desktop environment.

which should give you a hint.

lattimro · 04-25-2024, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpeckham

#1 it is based upon SLACKWARE so any desktop you can use on SLACKWARE should be available and work.

#2 if you look on the about page at the salix.org web site the first line in the about text starts:
which should give you a hint.

I think my question was not klar enough. I would like to stop/start the DM service. AFAIK my DM is XFCE

Quote:

wmctrl -m
Name: Xfwm4
Class: xfwm4
PID: 1605
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A

brad@toshiba:~$ ls /usr/bin/*session
/usr/bin/dbus-run-session* /usr/bin/lxsession* /usr/bin/openbox-session* /usr/bin/xfce4-session*

brad@toshiba:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
xfce
brad@toshiba:~$

wpeckham · 04-25-2024, 10:27 AM

Your original question was

Quote:

who knows what Display Manager Salix use?

so that was the question I did address.

How to stop the DM?
Do you mean you want to shut down the GUI display entirely?

I cannot think why, but if i wanted to do that I would turn off the auto-start for X (or Wayland) so that I could start and stop it manually. (See startx, etc)
I could tell you how easy that was using the init level system of Sysv-init, but I believe Salix uses SystemD so you would have to look up how to do it. (Or get someone who has done that to advise.)

lattimro · 04-25-2024, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpeckham

Your original question was
so that was the question I did address.

How to stop the DM?
Do you mean you want to shut down the GUI display entirely?

I cannot think why, but if i wanted to do that I would turn off the auto-start for X (or Wayland) so that I could start and stop it manually. (See startx, etc)
I could tell you how easy that was using the init level system of Sysv-init, but I believe Salix uses SystemD so you would have to look up how to do it. (Or get someone who has done that to advise.)

Correct. I just thought somebody would now if there is a service for DM. As one can see the service list in my OP there isn't. Sure I can prevent startxfce4 starting from xinitrc or inittab as I usually do but I always wonder if there is another way.
Thanks!

boughtonp · 04-26-2024, 09:17 AM

Easiest distro-agnostic way to identify the current display manager is probably "inxi -Sxxx"

wpeckham · 04-26-2024, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boughtonp

Easiest distro-agnostic way to identify the current display manager is probably "inxi -Sxxx"

Good advice for the original question as stated, but they changed the question. What the OP really wanted to know was how to stop and start the DM. They have not explained WHY, but here we are.

boughtonp · 04-26-2024, 05:10 PM

I noticed. Sometimes my posts are solely for the benefit of potential future visitors.

lattimro · 04-29-2024, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boughtonp

Easiest distro-agnostic way to identify the current display manager is probably "inxi -Sxxx"

Thanks

Code:

inxi -Sxxx
System:
  Host: toshiba.gattaca.net Kernel: 5.15.145 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 2.37-slack15 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel
    wm: xfwm 4.16.1 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Salix 15.0
    base: Slackware 15.0
root@toshiba//home/brad# service start lightdm
chmod: cannot access '/etc/rc.d/rc.lightdm': No such file or directory
No lightdm service

ls -F /etc/rc.d/
desc.d/      rc.atd*            rc.cpufreq*      rc.inet1.conf.old  rc.local_shutdown*  rc.postfix*     rc.snmpd      rc2.d/
init.d/      rc.atop            rc.crond*        rc.inet1.old*      rc.loop*            rc.postgresql*  rc.sshd*      rc3.d/
rc.0@        rc.autofs*         rc.cups*         rc.inet2*          rc.messagebus*      rc.pulseaudio*  rc.syslog*    rc4.d/
rc.4*        rc.avahidaemon*    rc.cups-browsed  rc.inetd           rc.modules*         rc.rpc*         rc.sysstat    rc5.d/
rc.6*        rc.avahidnsconfd*  rc.elogind*      rc.ip_forward      rc.modules.local*   rc.samba        rc.sysvinit*  rc6.d/
rc.K*        rc.bind            rc.font*         rc.kadmind         rc.mysqld           rc.saslauthd    rc.udev*
rc.M*        rc.bind.new        rc.fuse*         rc.keymap*         rc.networkmanager*  rc.sendmail     rc.vnstat*
rc.S*        rc.bluetooth*      rc.fuse3*        rc.kpropd          rc.nfsd*            rc.serial*      rc.wsdd2
rc.acpid*    rc.cgconfig        rc.haveged*      rc.krb5kdc         rc.ntpd*            rc.services*    rc.xrdp*
rc.alsa*     rc.cgred           rc.inet1*        rc.local*          rc.numlock*         rc.setterm*     rc0.d/
rc.alsa-oss  rc.clamav*         rc.inet1.conf    rc.local.orig*     rc.pcmcia           rc.smartd       rc1.d/

lattimro · 05-06-2025, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boughtonp

Easiest distro-agnostic way to identify the current display manager is probably "inxi -Sxxx"

inxi in console mode does not show WM.

It is not exactly about what DM is, but what service starts the DM. Sometimes, my DM does not start due to unknown (for me) reasons, and I would like to know how to restart it. Seems like nobody knows.

elcore · 05-06-2025, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lattimro

It is not exactly about what DM is, but what service starts the DM. Sometimes, my DM does not start due to unknown (for me) reasons, and I would like to know how to restart it. Seems like nobody knows.

It's in rc4 for sure.

Code:

tail /etc/inittab
cat /etc/rc.d/rc.4
tree /etc/X11/xinit/

lattimro · 05-07-2025, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcore

It's in rc4 for sure.

Code:

tail /etc/inittab
cat /etc/rc.d/rc.4
tree /etc/X11/xinit/

I know Window Manager is xfwm 4.16.1 and Display Manager is LightDM 1.30.0 but I don't know how to restart the service, to Logout and Login. I can select with xwmconfig whatever DM offers this script but how to restart the DM? Is it a service here in

Code:

ls -F /etc/rc.d/

or somewhere else?

elcore · 05-07-2025, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lattimro

I don't know how to restart the service, to Logout and Login.

Okay, it's in rc.4 so when you run "init 3" it's stopped and when you run "init 4" it's started again.
Or, you could just kill X server with ctrl_alt_bksp and it'll restart *DM in the process, but for that you must have in xorg.conf:InputDevice section:

Code:

    Option		"XkbOptions"	"terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

I use ctrl_alt_bksp when I change where xintrc symlink points to, for testing different setups. To change *DM permanently just write in rc.4.

lattimro · 05-07-2025, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcore

It's in rc4 for sure.

Code:

tail /etc/inittab
cat /etc/rc.d/rc.4
tree /etc/X11/xinit/

OK thanks. So it is rc.4 script respawn. And then is lxde as below? I uninstalled lightdm and lxdm and I stil got DM started manually

Code:

tree /etc/X11/xinit/
/etc/X11/xinit/
├── README.Xmodmap
├── xinitrc -> xinitrc.lxde
├── xinitrc.i3
├── xinitrc.lxde
├── xinitrc.openbox
├── xinitrc.openbox-session
└── xinitrc.xfce