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Old 12-01-2003, 01:15 PM   #1
Eugene
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SuSE HELP NEEDED! URGENT!


I installed SuSE 9.
Its really messed up, I tried to fix it on my own but...

1) For some reason I had 3D acceleration disabled.
I found out how to enable it.

Go to Yast>>Graphics Card and Monitor>> Change... 3D acceleration enable...

That's how it SHOULD go.

Well first of all this is what I got:

Card: NVidia GeForce 2 MX 100/200 ( nvidia )
Monitor: --> Vesa 1024x768@75HZ [ 31-60 kHz / 50-75 Hz
Resolutions: 1024x768
Color depth: 24 bit

3D Acceleration:
Disabled

------------------------------------------------------------------


That's what I have in the window with the change... button. its 100% correct.
So I click on change because I want to enable 3D Acceleration...

I get a pop-up window:

UnKnown Monitor

Monitor (0) with ID: AOCA781 not found
----------------------------------------

Please setup your monitor manually.
Do you want to start the configuration to setup the display now ?

Yes No


--------------------------------------------------------------------

Huh?
It didn't detect my monitor?

If I click on "No" it goes to the regular options menu.
If I click on yes this is what I get:

Currently configured Monitors
--------------------------------

On the list is one monitor: --> Vesa 1024x768@75HZ
I click on the "Properties"...

There is a big list there with a lot of Monitor models.
My monitor is not in the list... Its a 15" flat screen and made by LOC (sp?).

The list is of monitors that SuSE knows the right settings for, right?
On the top of the list I have 2 things:

--> LCD
--> Vesa

Well I'm not sure, but I choose Vesa, and 1024x768 and 75HZ (My monitor supports that, I'm 100% sure!)

In the "Frequencies" tab I don't know what to do so I left it as it is:

31-60 KHz
50-75 Hz

In the "Expert" tab I have no idea at ALL what to choose. so I left it as it is:

CheckDesktopGeometry

X:0 Y:0 and No DPMS...

Now I'm not stupid, if you got that idea from what I just wrote its a false one.
I wrote it because this is what happens.

It should work without a problem.
I click "ok" and then "Finish" and then on "Finalize >>" and guess what?

I get the same error again saying my monitor is not found!!!
This time I ignore it... and I get a message that says that I can test the settings or save them or cancel.

I test the settings I get a blue screen... and a menu. the test is ok. I save the settings...

Next time I go into Yast>>Graphics Card and Monitor>Change...

I again get the same error message, my monitor is not found.



I wouldn't care so much, but it creates another problem.

I go to 3D Acceleration:

3D/OpenGL setup...

[Check box] Enable 3D Features

I click on the box to enable it, and get a message saying that its experimantel... whatever...
well that's ok, it should work.

"Finish" then "Finalize>>"

AND AGAIN I GET THE ERROR MESSAGE ABOUT MY MONITOR NOT FOUND!!!

I do the test, its ok. I save the settings...

Configuration Saved...
--------------------------------------

Your modifications will take effect the next time the graphical system is restarted.

OK


Will I happily press the ok.
The window with the "change" button that has my settings info blinks.

And the 3D Acceleration:

Disabled!!!!

It DID NOT change!
I restarted, loged out, loged in... everything!

did NOT work!
It always says 3D Acceleration:

Disabled



And the monitor error is always there too...

However.
Before I tried it for the first time I tried to play tuxracer and got an error saying that I don't have acceleration 3D enabled... same for torcs and the other games.

AFTER I did it, torcs works, I don't get the error message anymore.
But tux goes into the game, I can here the music, but the screen is black.

So I got partial 3D Acceleration???

Apart from that...

I tried a LOT of times to change the monitor and to enable the 3D Acceleration.
At first when I went to the test, the test did NOT work, it said that:

Monitor(s) found, but don't have a usable configuration.

or something like that.
After a few times it started working by itself. wierd.

Another BIG problem apart from not having 3D Acceleration is that I can't update.

I got to YaST>> Software>> Online Update

And then I get an error:

ERROR

Could not write server files to disk.

Details>> Ignore Abort Update

Under details: "No details available."
If I ignore it and try to update I get:

ERROR

Patch information Retrival Failed.
Under details: error Unable to get './i386/update/9.0/patches/directory.3' or to read the directory.

Why is that?
When I installed SuSE and it configed my net settings it tested it by updating. I updated during the install just fine, and now I can't???!

Another thing is this:

I tried installing apt-get (or is it called apt-rpm?)
And in the terminal I got this:

linux:/home/eugene # rpm -i apt-libs-0.5.5cnc6-rb6.i586.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.0 is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-rb6

I don't know what libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.0 is, or where to find it.



please, please, please help!

(sorry for the long post)
 
Old 12-01-2003, 02:04 PM   #2
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Did you install the required Nvidia drivers? If you are still using the generic nvidia driver included in Suse, hardware acceleration is not possible. Does Suse include the nvidia drivers in their distro? A question for other Suse users.

In any event, this isn't really urgent. You have a usable system, your X session is not hosed, seems like Suse kept undoing unsupported options and fixed itself. Sure, Tuxracer is nice, but urgent?

From
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._ia32_1.0-4496

'If you install via the .run file, XFree86 configuration with SaX2/YaST2 will not work correctly. For more information, see the NVIDIA Installer HOWTO for SuSE Linux at http://www.suse.de/en/private/downlo...86/index.html.'

On the update front...
The fact that you get 'Unable to read directory' error to me means that you are running Yast as non root? Is that possible, or does Yast prompt for root's password?

R.O.
 
Old 12-01-2003, 04:20 PM   #3
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look around the linux hardware forum a bit and you will see that getting 3d hardware enabled is very painfull in SuSE 9. I am struggling with it myself, I have a Radeon 9800 and it is quite tricky to get running 3d accel. NVidia has very good linux support and you should do fine installing those drivers.
 
Old 12-02-2003, 01:53 AM   #4
Hendikins
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Quote:
Originally posted by RolledOat
Does Suse include the nvidia drivers in their distro? A question for other Suse users.
SuSE 9.0 does not include the nvidia drivers, although YaST2 can download them during installation. I've found this to be problematic from time to time, so I generally download them seperately and install them using nvidia's installer.
 
Old 12-02-2003, 05:36 AM   #5
Eugene
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Thanks guys...

I manged to install apt-rpm for suse.

As for the NVidia driver, I downloaded it while installing.
I do have the splash screen of NVidia so I know its installed...

with apt-rpm I got Synaptic.
And I tried updating the distro... got an error saying I have bad packges installed and that I can't update untill I fix them.

Also, I forgot to mention this...
When I start-up and the log-in screen loads the screen is all fuzzy for a few sec's... like a bad X86 install.

What I'm going to do is re-install SuSE and get apt-rpm right away.
Then Synaptic... and then update the distro.

When I'm going to update while installing, I'll not download the NVidia driver. I'll install it myself with the installer later...

I hope that will do the trick...
Thanks guys I'll let you know how it goes...
 
Old 12-03-2003, 04:54 AM   #6
Eugene
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Fixed!

I just re-installed SuSE and it got working!

For all SuSE user's that have truble enabling 3D Graphics, or for those that havn't installd SuSE this is what you need to do:

1) Install (Or Re-Install if its already installed) SuSE.
2) When you get to the part where SuSE detects your internet settings, and you test them out by updating... get ALL the updates, but not the NVidia one! (Its the last one on the list)

From what I understand, SuSE doesn't have it on the CD's for legal reasons.
But you can get the NVidia driver by updating... DONT DO THAT!

3) Finish the install as usual. Do not mess with the hardware settings SuSE detected for your monitor and graphics card.

4) The very first thing you need to do after the install is install apt-rpm.
http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/ - Very easy instructions, even a newbie like me can do it.

After you install apt-rpm go to the terminal and write: apt-get update
It will get you a very large lists file of programs... it might take some time...

Note: you need to change the sources.list file. its in this dir': /etc/apt/sources.list
Instructions on this are on the site I gave the link too... just a small tip: you don't need the rpm-source line.. put a # before it. (you'll understand what the hell I'm talking about when you will see the site)

5) now that you have a new install of SuSE without the NVidia driver, and you have apt-get... go to the terminal and write: apt-get install synaptic

It might take some time... but its worth it.
After its done installing, restart and:

Click on the menu (buttom left, huge green button can't miss it ) and then run program...
From there choose synaptic from the list.

6) with the synaptic search (top-right) search for: "kernel-source" and install it.
Its a 45MB file but you need it...

7) go to: http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/dis...nstaller-HOWTO

And do the rest of the instructions.
Tip: when you boot just write: linux 3 to load without X.

8) go to Yast>>hardware>>monitor and graphics card>>3D Acceleration>> enable

your DONE!

It works great for me, only tux still gives me sound only.
But that's tuxracers code not my computer...

I hope I helped people by writing this... its the least I could do!
Enjoy!
 
  


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