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sapilas 04-26-2002 04:38 PM

Suse 8 (ex-Slackware member)
 
if you find the ISO version of suse 8 please post the url here.

cheers..

Well I am tired with the slackware. . . .no way I can configure my printer and my webcam and my wintv . . .

I wanna stop using windows and the only way is by tried all the linux disto that claim to be able to find your hardware easily..

However I am not gonna use Redhat . . and mandreka thats for sure..


;)

trickykid 04-26-2002 05:24 PM

Re: Suse 8 (ex-Slackware member)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sapilas
if you find the ISO version of suse 8 please post the url here.

cheers..

Well I am tired with the slackware. . . .no way I can configure my printer and my webcam and my wintv . . .

I wanna stop using windows and the only way is by tried all the linux disto that claim to be able to find your hardware easily..

However I am not gonna use Redhat . . and mandreka thats for sure..


;)

you won't find the iso's anywhere.. if you want it free.. either get someone to burn it for you or download via ftp.. or buy it of course. SuSE doesn't release iso's for download, only the live evaluation version.

safrout 04-26-2002 07:03 PM

and how can
 
i use this live evaluation version kan u tell me

what shall i do if i want t burn them on a cd

sapilas 04-27-2002 08:27 AM

well i know that there are no official ISOs ..

So can anyone post a copy of his cds in ISO format in an ftp/http/ssh space to download them :)

:D

acid_kewpie 04-27-2002 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sapilas
well i know that there are no official ISOs ..

So can anyone post a copy of his cds in ISO format in an ftp/http/ssh space to download them :)

:D

well why can't you just download over ftp??? it's not exactly hard...

sapilas 04-27-2002 09:49 AM

well its hard..

1. I have a modem connection which sucks...
2. I have to download it from the library (quite fast), but I have to transfer the files at home with zip-follpies in 100MB each,( I have only 7 zip-discs
3. I have only one partition in fat32 , I use it to store personal files and be able to access it from both win32 + linux
4. but that partition is only 5GB , which is not enough to put the linux stup files in it, and start the installation from the disc.

5. I am not sure if I will manage to setup my printer and web cam so I might get back to slackware and waste 45 to buy something that is gonna be old in a few months.

So I think its much easier if someone make the ISOs available..,,,
otherwise I can say linux sucks.......(just suitable to run server applications only, but not 4 my everyday workstation) windows are never gonna be abandoned cause make file easy...

safrout 04-27-2002 10:00 AM

ya plz
 
anyone can do it for the sack of all users with bad connection


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sapilas 04-27-2002 10:12 AM

well its late for me now :)

just bought it....

results after thurday with the suse8 installation..

I have a variety of hardware installed,

winTV-hauppage-pci
usb webcam creative
cd-r (I have made that work before)
hp printer
3D graphics

if I manage to install them all I will be glad to erase win32 from my harddrive for the next years...

more news soon about the suse8 ...

chuky 04-27-2002 10:50 AM

ftp://ftp.ai-lab.fh-furtwangen.de/pu...onen/SuSE-8.0/

sapilas 04-27-2002 02:15 PM

btw if suse 8 is 8 discs ..........

How much disc space does a

minimum,a normal and a full istall requires ??

just to be ready to repartition . . :)


:confused:

safrout 04-27-2002 07:17 PM

mmmmmmm?
 
so which cd i need for a normal user on SuSe i am not a programmer or anything and will not have a server on my computer just OS only
can anyone help me

and what shall i do with this files with extension .NRG

how shall i burn it

sapilas 04-28-2002 06:34 AM

the nrg is ISO format . . .its the way that nero (I think) use to save the images..

try to rename them to .iso and open them with the "winimage" program to be sure that they are ISOs..


or just try to burn them . . . as image files.. the burning software usually tells you if the format is invalid..

safrout 04-28-2002 07:43 AM

ok
 
but which cds i need frm the 7 just to have the personal version

are thrm thr first 3 only or which of them

sapilas 04-28-2002 08:49 AM

3 years ago when I tried for first time suse it was 5 CDS, of which 4 where the installation and the 5th was the live_CD- that is used for demontrations...

I am not sure if suse is 8 or 9 CD total. I will find it out in 3 days when I receive my ordered copy :)

For sure you need the first 7 CDs... what difference does it make if you download one more :)

About the personal version I dont know what you have to do cause I havn't got the cds yet..

There must be an option to do a workstation installation or a server one... But I believe the packages will be mixes up among all cds..

you can check the suse site to see how many CDs its suse8

safrout 04-28-2002 09:42 AM

hey
 
i checked the site and founf that suse prof. is 7 cds
and the personal one is 3

and all i need is the personal only

sapilas 04-28-2002 11:11 AM

I ordered the professional one..

I donot know if you can get some of the CDs to install personal or if you need all of them and not install most of the software.

NetScripter 04-30-2002 01:08 PM

I tried the link above but it seems to be dead. Maybe this dist was already removed?
Please post an alternative link if any1 knows...

sapilas 05-01-2002 08:31 AM

link is not dead never was ..

IE or any other browser might not work...

try to

ftp ftp.ai-lab.fh-furtwangen.de

(username:anonymous, password:othing@no.com)

cd pub/mirror
cd ftp.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de/pub/linux/distributionen/SuSE-8.0/

dir

(and here your are)

NetScripter 05-01-2002 09:49 AM

thanx for explaination

rcgroups1 05-01-2002 09:11 PM

now this site has removed read access for those files. gates permission error if you try to download.

ronss 05-02-2002 07:17 AM

hi. i bought suse 8 at compusa, it has i believe 7 cd and dvd. the install i did use 4 cd,s, though i don,t set up anything fancy like apache, sambra, which may requie you to use more cd,s. the big dissappointment i have with suse 8 is that they didn,t include raid, i don,t know what they are thinking about. lot of use use raid, i have it set up on red hat 7.2, and it is a lot faster using raid 0. the sue sound drivers are pretty good, my harmon kardon 695 sound very good. a plus for suse 8. i also have downloaded mandrake 8.2 , iso download, i really like mandrake 8.2 so far, though i have red hat 7.2 and suse 8 installed, may reinstall 8.2 later when i can get a manual. mandrake is very easy to install, the easiest i have used.

sapilas 05-02-2002 08:53 AM

I don;t have any raid device, but when I installed the suse the kernel was RAID enabled.:) I think you have to check again ..

there must be raid tools... but it takes time to find then as there are many packages..

linuxfreak 05-02-2002 12:15 PM

Well, now it's officially dead :cry:


>The SuSE 8.0 Images can be obtained via www.suse.de.
>The Images in here are deleted due some copyright issues.
>
>We don't support any illegal activities on this FTP so don't
>try to contact us for the images. Go buy them.
>
>regards,
>
>Furtwangen-FTP Team.

I got to about 40% of the first CD, but that's all, the speed really sucked (~3-4kb/s) and I got repeatedly disconnected with my line being taken by somebody else before I even had a chance to reconnect.

Anyone knows any other links??

I know there are ISO images circling on eDonkey2000, but all those I've found are incomplete (30-40 megs), and trust me I've been looking, plus I've heard from others that at least some of them are fake, so....a fast ftp link would be appreciated :) Or if someone knows a server/hub on either eDonkey2000 or Direct Connect where I can find complete ISO images :confused:

Anyway, how come this open source distro Suse 8 is harder to get hold of on the net than M$ products like XP?? Isn't that a bit strange?? Couldn't they at least release a CD version without a fancy box and manuals for those of us who don't have a lot of money to spend but still want the best Linux can offer? Damn greedy Suse :mad: :mad: :mad:

sapilas 05-02-2002 12:33 PM

the prof edition costs only 48 with 1-3 days free delivery.

I haven't regret buying it. Its 7 CDs and DVD, and three books very useful for those that just came in the LinuxWorld, for the rest is just something that useful for the Fireplace in the home :)

I think you should buy it, you can care the cost with someone else.

Downloading windows is easy, SURE but its only 500MB..
Suse is 650x7 = u do the maths..

rshaw 05-02-2002 01:14 PM

it has raid. from yast2 select >hardware> partitioner , at the bottom is a button allowing you to create or edit it.

danrees 05-05-2002 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sapilas
well i know that there are no official ISOs ..

So can anyone post a copy of his cds in ISO format in an ftp/http/ssh space to download them :)

:D

This makes me sick. I thought Linux users were different, but now people want to resort to illegal activities instead of waiting 3 bloody weeks for SuSE 8.0 to be officially available from FTP.

Really, you don't belong to the Linux community I'm so passionate about if you feel requesting something illegal on an open message board is reasonable behaviour. There are plenty of free (as in beer) Linux distributions available, but instead you want to fleece one of the best and most dedicated Linux distributions of the little money they get.

Just go back and use your Warez copy of Windows 2000 and Office XP...

:mad:

ronss 05-05-2002 03:26 AM

raid tools , great, will check out , i just installed it and haven,t time to check a lot of things out. i am getting to like suse 8 quite a bit, seems like a very good distro. i didn,t like the desktop theems but got some good ones here. kde-look.org. later thanks for the help

sapilas 05-05-2002 02:09 PM

---------------------------------------------
by danrees
I thought Linux users were different, but now people want to resort to illegal activities instead of waiting 3 bloody weeks for SuSE 8.0 to be officially available from FTP.
---------------------------------------------

well I asked 4 a ISO version . .I cannot install it from the hdd I have no space ...

And just for your info the suse never provides the ISOs in the ftp.

sturm375 05-07-2002 05:49 PM

Re: hey
 
Quote:

Originally posted by safrout
i checked the site and founf that suse prof. is 7 cds
and the personal one is 3

and all i need is the personal only

Have SuSE 8 Pro on my desk, 7 CDs and One DVD. The DVD contains all the installation material of the other 7 discs. Someday I hope to install without the LILO errors:(

trickykid 05-07-2002 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sapilas
well I asked 4 a ISO version . .I cannot install it from the hdd I have no space ...

And just for your info the suse never provides the ISOs in the ftp.

that is what he meant, suse doesn't give out iso's since most likely that is against their license for their distro. so creating a iso image for someone to download is illegal according to suse.

linuxfreak 05-07-2002 10:15 PM

Microsoft at least openly admit they want you to pay for their products, but if you try to find information about how to acquire Suse you just get a load of bullshit right in your face. They don't say "you have to pay for it", instead they say "we don't offer ISO files online". Who are they kidding???

While MicroSoft build their products on mostly their own code, all Suse does is redistributing a bunch of free open source software with a price tag. Not because they don't have time or resources to offer ISO files, but because they refuse to let anyone get their distro without paying for it, and would sue anyone's ass for doing so just like Microsoft would for their XP.

I really hope Suse is not the future of Linux, cause then the future of Linux looks pretty bleach. They should look at RedHat and Mandrake, which make profit not on forcing people to pay for their distros, but on voluntary donations, technical support etc. while still offering their products for sale the regular way for those who prefer boxed versions with manuals etc...

ronss 05-08-2002 04:27 AM

houdy- i get the drift. linux was suppose to be free, open source, not sure if it will continue to free, well, debian is one that i can think of that will always be free i believe due to the volunteer thing. mandrake is in financial troubles at the moment, believe they will survive. i really like mandrake, but my mouse doesn,t work to well with it.

i have just upgraded to red hat 7.3 from 7.2 with iso download, it was free.

i quess i don,t mind paying suse $39 for the personal, i always get the professional though. still, you got to agree that $39 is better than paying $150-$200 that micro$oft wants for a complete system.with the $79 i paid for the proffesion, though i am ticked i didn,t buy it from amazon for $64, suse will continue to offet a quality product.

it,s nice to get stuff free, iso,s,and it was suppose to be that way with linux, guess this is the changing of times.

sapilas 05-08-2002 06:51 AM

well the thing with suse 8 is you pay 48 delivery home of prof edition. AND you have all the available software that you can possible use. No need to reconnect and download extra software.

While with windows you pay extra for the OS, extra for office packages extra for photoshop...... EXTRA EXTRA... and then you are out of money :(

:mad:

CARTMAN 05-08-2002 09:46 AM

You can sell LinuX as far as you give the *complete* source code with it. It doesnt conflict with GPL at all.

ronss 05-08-2002 09:58 AM

interesting, did not know that.one thing if for sure, my 3 computers and all the software i have has put me in the poor house!!i don,t tell people how much i have spent on my unsatisfied hobby with computers.

crashmeister 05-09-2002 01:58 PM

I did read that Suse doesn't include things like make and gcc in the defaultinstall with 8.0
Is that really the case?

sapilas 05-09-2002 02:53 PM

----
I did read that Suse doesn't include things like make and gcc in the defaultinstall with 8.0
Is that really the case?
----

crazy people sometimees say crazy stuff....

I don't remember.. I installed Suse twice. First time I spend 2 minutes in the packages and second time I spend 20 mins.

both times I had gcc and make installed..

It depends I you select compact installation you get what you deserve...

However if you have any problem you just
~# YaST2
and you select additional software you might wanna install...

(insert the CD )
:Pengy:

crashmeister 05-09-2002 03:38 PM

Yast2,well - that's the other point that keeps me from upgrading to 8.0. Had nothing but trouble with it with 7.3

sapilas 05-09-2002 03:47 PM

YaSt2

I used it many time until now in suse8.

to install aviplay, emu-tools,and more
unistall vmware..

It works fine (like windows add remove programs)

TRUST IN :Pengy:

linuxfreak 05-10-2002 02:10 PM

Got one question for you all...

Is there anything in the Suse license prohibiting the purchaser to install one single legally bought copy on an unlimited number of computers, one's own as well as those of friends etc?

I mean, for Windows it's very clear that it's a personal single user license and that you would have to buy a group license in order to install Windows on all computers in a network....

Really want to know :)

rshaw 05-10-2002 02:15 PM

you can install it on 1 or 1000.

sapilas 05-13-2002 08:21 AM

some day I hope that day never come......

we will have to pay for linux too....

Then I will install DOS ver 6 .... again.. :(

MarcoSV 06-13-2002 09:38 PM

Hi everyone. I'm a newbie to Linux.
I have read all messages posted here. I have a problem installing the downloadable SuSE 8.0 Version.

I downloaded the 3GB plus approx. suse 8.0 to harddisk, and already burned the Boot ISO to start installation.
I have 2 Partitions, one NTFS, one FAT32 and there is an Unlocated space ready for SuSE =)
I choose installing from Harddisk, so I specify the hda2 partition (FAT32), and the whole path /suse/i386/8.0.
Installation starts then it stops displaying a message that hda2 could not be mounted!
I drives me crazy! I don't have another PC so I can try SMB... so anyone can advise me on how to do so correctly???
I have read that no SuSE ISO images are available for download. I guess the majority of files must be the same and on the CD's distro.
Is there a possibility to get a text file with the List of the right structure to put back together files and burn them to a CD so you can install from CD instead of the Harddisk way???
SuSE ISO are illegal, but... if you downloaded all files from ftp.suse.com.. how can you put them into a CD so they work fine???
I'd appreciate any help. I've tried before Mandrake 8.2. 3 ISO's download and the job was done.
Thank you guys.

Marco


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