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Old 01-06-2019, 08:03 AM   #46
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where did you get that information?
To be honest with you ondoho, I don't honestly remember where I saw the message, other than to say from the little I can remember, it was an error maybe on system startup, which from memory was from X saying it needed at least 700 and something MiB to run. I've just tried a number of distro's to try and get the same message by allocating a very low amount of memory to them, but I cannot get it to give me the same error. One possibility I can think of would be that it may have meant for both X and whatever desktop environment it was to run, rather than just X itself, beyond that, I don't remember - too long ago now. But I did also say "if I'm not mistaken", which is why I said that, but yes, maybe I should not have said what you quoted. I'm sorry for any confusion caused all the same.

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the internet is full of people showing off their low stats on Linux, and many of them run a GUI with way less than 100M(i)B RAM used...
I haven't seen them, so I don't know.

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not that i'm a follower of that particular fetish, but I dislike incorrect statements.
While I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about exactly there, if I'm thinking right that you're talking about people running either minimal systems and/or minimal graphical environments; then I tend to agree with you. As you have probably no doubt seen me say here at LQ, I prefer KDE, as my machine has plenty of resources like memory to run it quite easily. I can understand why people would run a minimal system/graphical environment if their machine hasn't got the resources to run something heavier, but it makes little to no sense to me to skimp on resources if your machine is more than powerful enough to handle a full blown desktop environment - short of maybe running some very, very intensive applications.
 
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:52 PM   #47
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T As you have probably no doubt seen me say here at LQ, I prefer KDE, as my machine has plenty of resources like memory to run it quite easily. I can understand why people would run a minimal system/graphical environment if their machine hasn't got the resources to run something heavier, but it makes little to no sense to me to skimp on resources if your machine is more than powerful enough to handle a full blown desktop environment - short of maybe running some very, very intensive applications.
Well, i could run kde or such, but i simply don't need it for my workflow, so i don't run it. And i guess there are more people who simply prefer to do their stuff in a certain way, which simply doesn't require a DE.

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I haven't seen them, so I don't know.
There you go, slightly more than 100 though:
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# ps_mem.py
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

 92.0 KiB +  34.0 KiB = 126.0 KiB       runsvdir
 72.0 KiB +  90.0 KiB = 162.0 KiB       netsurf
 92.0 KiB +  91.0 KiB = 183.0 KiB       startx
188.0 KiB + 187.0 KiB = 375.0 KiB       xinit
480.0 KiB +   3.5 KiB = 483.5 KiB       runit
320.0 KiB + 173.0 KiB = 493.0 KiB       su
396.0 KiB + 312.0 KiB = 708.0 KiB       agetty (4)
472.0 KiB + 295.0 KiB = 767.0 KiB       ssh-agent (2)
620.0 KiB + 151.0 KiB = 771.0 KiB       dhcpcd
580.0 KiB + 387.0 KiB = 967.0 KiB       runsv (10)
672.0 KiB + 424.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       login (2)
  1.2 MiB + 150.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       udevd
  1.1 MiB + 294.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB       ntpd
564.0 KiB + 816.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       screen-4.6.2 (2)
992.0 KiB + 520.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB       sshd
  2.1 MiB + 426.0 KiB =   2.5 MiB       ogg123
  1.8 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   3.2 MiB       bash (4)
  2.2 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   3.3 MiB       st
  2.7 MiB + 594.0 KiB =   3.3 MiB       irssi
  6.7 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   7.9 MiB       wish8.6
  5.6 MiB +   4.2 MiB =   9.8 MiB       openbox
 33.0 MiB +   3.7 MiB =  36.7 MiB       Xorg
 43.5 MiB +   5.5 MiB =  49.0 MiB       netsurf-gtk
---------------------------------
                        127.3 MiB
=================================

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

Warning: Shared memory is slightly over-estimated by this system
for each program, so totals are not reported.
#
 
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it was an error maybe on system startup, which from memory was from X saying it needed at least 700 and something MiB to run.
definitely mistaken.
your DE might require that much, but not X(org) itself.
 
  


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