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Old 11-05-2002, 08:14 AM   #16
cyberdiamond
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Australia
Distribution: Red Hat 5.2-7.3 & Bootable Slackware 8.1 CD
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Whats with the package manager?
It looks good and works well
BUT
when U install 3rd party or other rpms U cant see them?
is there a verify in there somewhere to check if all is well?

Inclusion of open office is good!

Read support for NTFS would be useful to some as well without recompiling the kernel (small inconvenience).

The new server/system config tools are good.
Pico and pine are there just do custom install select individual packages

Drivers for winmodems and hardware raid would also help a lot of people to get it onto their machines

Overall some good some bad but thats what customisation is for.
Unlike windoze products
 
Old 11-07-2002, 09:43 PM   #17
motorheadabega
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Location: T.O.
Distribution: Red Hat 8
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Is anyone but myself having trouble enabling DMA on their DVD ROM drive since upgrading to Red Hat 8?

I keep getting the following error message whenever trying to enable DMA (as root of course):

[root@localhost robert]# /sbin/hdparm -X34 -d1 /dev/cdrom

/dev/cdrom:
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
setting xfermode to 34 (multiword DMA mode2)
using_dma = 0 (off)


There is also a thread in Linux Hardware for this issue, for anyone else who has noticed this since upgrading to RH8.

My system details:
  • MSI 745 Mainboard
  • Athlon XP2000+
  • DDU1621 DVD-ROM
  • Red Hat 8.0
 
Old 11-08-2002, 02:44 AM   #18
jdc2048
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Is anyone else getting a lot of seg faults with RH8. I don't recall seeing any with RH7.3, but since I added 8 to my system, I get them on everything.

Some examples are the majority of the games (sol, kbounce, gnome-stones, etc...)

Some of the preference applications, and system settings as well.

Aside from that, the install hasn't changed much over 7.3. Still pretty good.

I had no problems finding all my hardware, except NVIDIA GeForce 2 GO video card. This is a licensing issue though not a problem on RH behalf. The openoffice thing was genious. They should make copies of the mozilla link on the desktop and label it something like "Internet Discoverer" or something like that (just to piss on M$ shoes).

Overall, 8.1 will be a solid alternative to Windows for the desktop**. I say 8.1 of course, because they need to work out the bugs in 8.0 (as usual for a .0 release).


** By "solid alternative to Windows for the desktop", I am referring to about 95% of users who just need to surf, chat, e-mail, and rip/listen to mp3's.
 
Old 11-15-2002, 02:23 AM   #19
beep_beep
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Distribution: RH7.3; 8.0, SuSE 9.1
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Wink My feedback

1)package manager . Where is "Find package"?
2)During file searching CPU(256) up to 98%,windows hang up.
3)Open file by dbl click - where all simple text editors?
All easy options I have:"Programms" with Big Editors.
4)Hardware browser. No functionality.What a place for
finding ,adding, removing hardware?
5)May be all this exists? Where a INDEX help?Only KDE help
with no search options.
6)Look much more better.
7)Seems to run faster!
 
Old 11-15-2002, 01:53 PM   #20
ThorsHammer
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I had problems with REDHAT 8.0.
It had a real problem reading from my install CDs. Whenever I got to the 3rd install and put it in per the install request it hung forver. Would not moe. Never happened with any other linux ditro.
Finally I had to change to my CD burner for it to install.
Then when i got to the part about installing the boot loader I usually install it on a floppy, but redhat didnt give me that chioce. At least not that I could figure out. I chose to install it at the first REDHAT partition and created a floppy boot disk t get into it.
Once I got it up and running I noticed it looked very nice but the Gnome menus had change and wernt as easy to navigate through to find what you want to do.
Then I shut down and went to reboot the next day and at the startup screen where you can see it going through the loading checklist, it hung after
Loading module dependencies (OK)

After tha it just sat and did nothing.
 
Old 11-19-2002, 07:36 PM   #21
double0fro
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Maryland
Distribution: RedHat 8.0
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RH 8.0 - Love it!

Install went very smooth for me, detected all my hardware etc. Blue curve look is pretty decent. As for the missing multimedia, well...i have an xp box too, so whatever redhat is missing, xp can do i suppose. And MP3 support...you can get the fix for that
 
Old 11-19-2002, 11:18 PM   #22
ScreeminChikin
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On my laptop...I dig it. Coixists nicely with the win2k Pro partition, I have sound and can play my mp3s. Only issue is that I can't seem to get Opera to work.

My desktop is a different story however. No sound, no scroll mouse cant get mplayer to install, blah blah....all things I was able to get working under 7.3. But I do have Opera...go figure!?

Overall the things I like are the rpm package installer, the filefoller, openoffice rocks and there are a few little tools that are easier to track down than in 7.3 but I have found the command line to be a little less functional to me because most of the few tools I'm familliar with just dont seem to be there. And I was quite acustomed to the Ximan Gnome desktop and will be stoked when they release an 8.0 version. I would probably give it a thumbs up if I had never used 7.3 but since I finally figured out how to install software and unzip files from the command line, the only real improvement to me is openoffice. I would have left 7.3 if I hadn't toasted it trying to listen to mp3 files
 
Old 12-02-2002, 08:06 AM   #23
beep_beep
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Distribution: RH7.3; 8.0, SuSE 9.1
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Angry I love it too!!!

I love my RH8 more and more!!!
But without old package manager I not able to determine
where my packages installed.
It's like windows - fine looked but without any information.
I need a button to press it and see list of files and folders of the
package , installation directories, may be short description...
Anyway I love it!
 
Old 12-03-2002, 03:25 PM   #24
wbeck
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Location: Blue Springs
Distribution: slackware 8.0
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I am dual booting with RH8.0 and XP with no problems.
 
Old 12-05-2002, 11:08 PM   #25
Wolvereen
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I'm new to this RH 8, but I've been trying to run a star trek EF server for the game. tried using whats called EFRunner, with no luck, I am networking two pcs with a linksys router and someone told me that linux is good to run a server with, I'm not sure how yet...but she also told me that I could download it, but I couldn't put on a pc that already has window? Is this correct..would appreciate any feedback on the RH 8 and running server with it.
thanks heaps
 
Old 12-12-2002, 02:30 PM   #26
sourian
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change Bluecurve

Hi there!

I have RH 8.0. Its' great, with only one thing: I liked my old Gnome look better. Now I cannot make the taskbar aligned on center (like in osX), and a lot of other things.

Anyone knows how change it back to good ol' Gnome look?

Thanks.
Sourian
 
Old 12-12-2002, 03:20 PM   #27
deesto
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Registered: May 2002
Location: NY, USA
Distribution: FreeBSD, Fedora, RHEL, Ubuntu; OS X, Win; have used Slackware, Mandrake, SuSE, Xandros
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My RH8 experience was very similar to ScreeminChikin's though it was more of a disaster. I had a working, dual-boot RH7.3/XP machine, and made the brilliant decision to ruin a working machine and "upgrade" to RH8. Long story short, after 8 install attempts, all with "kernel panic" errors on initial RH boot, I gave up on Red Hat. Not to mention the lost functionality on multimedia applications (since when does creating an upgraded version of an OS mean you LOSE functionality?). Aside from the insurmountable problems, it seems as if RH is moving toward the direction of free (yes, I understand the meaning in GPL terms) software that's, well, not so free.
 
Old 12-13-2002, 10:04 PM   #28
C++freak
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My Opinion:
I HATED RH 8
...
the kde/gnome thing pissed me off
the mp3 / xmms / noatun thing pissed me off
I liked 7.3 alright, but I guess I am done with RH, its time to slack
 
Old 01-04-2003, 01:34 AM   #29
pfloor
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Does anyone here know if the ISO files on the ftp site are RedHat 8.0 personal or RedHat 8.0 professional?
 
Old 01-04-2003, 09:32 AM   #30
deesto
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Personal; they'd never offer a 'pro' version for free download.
 
  


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