This release seems to be aimed more at the desktop. Red Hat has given KDE and Gnome the same look and functionality. Head to your local mirror and try it out.

Mirrors - http://redhat.com/download/mirror.html

--jeremy

It should be noted that the bero from Red Hat left the company as a result of what they did with KDE. What do those of you who have tried Red Hat 8 think?

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=103293985032408

--jeremy

i dont really use kde but i see nothing wrong with what has been done all they did from what i could tell *I am by NO MEANS an intermediate user, so don't take my word for truth that this is all that was changed* was change the menu's I dislike how they did the menu, I understand it was to simplify the menu for new users and such, but it just confused me until I figured out for example under the Internet Folder is commonly used apps and under the Extras->Internet Folder was the rest of the Internet apps such as gaim kirc xchat etc..

Jeremy, I've not yet used the final shipping version but I did testing of Limbo and NULL and found Red Hat 8.0 to be very usable and a step closer toward the desktop market. I still think that Mandrake, SuSE, and Lycoris are the leaders when it comes to making distros designed especially for the desktop, but as a good general distro, I really like Red Hat 8.0.

As far as Bero goes, he really likes KDE and he was upset with the fact that Red Hat wanted to create their own desktop appearance. But Lycoris and others have done it very successfully. I'd have to side with Red Hat on branding their distro and giving it a distinctive appearance.

Changing everything around was a Microsoft move if I ever saw one. WHY, WHY do the OS companies feel the need to move all their shortcuts, rename them and frustrate the crap out of their users?!? Where the samhill is the Pilot Conduits link?

As far as integrating the menus, I'm against that completely. Now I can't configure the panel the way I want it either.

It seems you are stuck with the default icons that Red Hat chooses to put there. I hope I'm just missing something somewhere, but I am about ready to go back to 7.3.

I haven't tried it, but I'm thinking of taking the plunge. It's been a year since I started my Linux adventure, and I began with Mandrake. I've learned a lot since then, but now I'm starting to crave an organization behind my distro.

I'm interested in paying for support, so that I can get on with work and delegate operational problems to an individual (or group) more knowledgeable than myself. (And also likely to solve the problem more quickly than I can.)

Mandrake just doesn't have the support infrastructure in place -- if Red Hat does, then I'll happily switch.

I'll continue to read all of your posts with interest.

ihoff, if you don't have $1200 (if I remember right) Red Hat won't help you. I had a problem with a server that I installed for a company. I called them and they told me that it would cost $1200 for support. With Linux you are better to join a support group or use forums like this one. Unless you have money to spend.

Mandrake doesn't offer support directly. They send you to a consultant. The one I talked to charged around $200 a call, with an option for a yearly contract. The guys that work for him develope for Mandrake.

Just thought that you might be interested.

I just downloaded, burned, and installed Psyche. I've read all the other reviews before I installed and I agree - the menus are confusing. Otherwise, it looks and feels... solid... nice!

Haven't used XP but I do some work on a Mac... it sort a looks like one - the OS 9s I mean.

Greets

My installation of RedHat 8 on a AMD K6-2 400 was a disaster and failed completely with kernel panics before even getting going.

After much googling I found a solution that I would like to share for the benefit of any others experiencing the same hassles.

Symptoms :
Kernel panic with :
EXT2-fs = unable to read SuperBlock
CramFS : Wrong Magic
FAT : unable to read boot sector

My solution :

From the install prompt :
linux mem=nopentium x86_serial_nr=1 text noapic

This worked for me - anyone have a better solution?

Also see :
http://www.redhat.com/support/resour...ird-Duron.html

Regards
Michael L Griffin

I have likes red hat for a while now, but ive liked kde longer, and I dont lilke it looking like Gnome too much. Menus suck, yes. I got it installed on my laptop on the 5th try, it crashed for no reason or froze the other times. When I installed it on my desktop(today) I couldnt see any options, from the log-on screen on. If I clicked on shut down, or session, or any of those, the meni that would pop up was nothing but radio buttons in a big white box. Some of the prog and boxes in Kde did the same. Plus all my programs and the menus and stuff where double, except for things i had installed myself. I am very dissapointed, But I havent rebooted into windows yet.

diffraction-patterns.png as your kicker background looks cool, and this is the first time ive been able to change my resolution at will in KDE.

My luck seems to have held out... I just installed once. That's about it. Its wait n' see from here on in.

Has ANYONE figured out how to setup the pilot conduits? I can't believe RH 8 would ship with this feature missing. How is this supposed to be a desktop OS for the business user if I can't even sync my handheld? As you can probably tell, frustration is mounting. Any ideas?

Still have not found out how to set those up, either. The menus are really getting annoying, too. I'm about to go back to 7.3.

I installed RH8.0 last night -- I chose custom install, and selected everything (at the bottom of the package list). A lot of the smb stuff was installed, but I didn't see the findsmb command. Is findsmb excluded from 8.0 (it was in 7.3); has it been subsumed by some other smb command?