Hey the subject basicly tells all i have some music files on my windows machine and i dont want them on there any more and in my linux machine i want them on there but there isent a Ethernet card but i will be geting one soon but thats besides the point i wanna take the songs off of windows 98 and put them on my linux machine thru a phone line Plz help me

Matt3333

You need to either get a null modem cable or plan on some research and some soldering of phone cable to a serial connector on each end. Win 98 and up can do a direct connect, Linux will do so under some protest. what I would do if the Widnows box has a burner is burn to Cd and then read the CDs in the Linux box-- but do NOT try to use drag-and-drop, make ISOs of your MP3s. Yuo can use CD-RW media so you can wipe if mistakes or if later want to use again up to 1000 times (CD-RW only for reuse), but burning will be easier to do than making a cable or talking Linux into tlaking right with Windows via modem on a direct connection.

IF you have cabling, connectors, adn crimping or soldering skills, then look on the web in google for the pinout specs for RS-232 connections, then for the specs for null modems for 9 pin RS-232 connects. the essential answer for teh cable itself is only the primary pair, or send and receive (Tx=transmit or send, Rx=receive) need to be crossed, and you only need 4 wires to do this between the connectors. I burn and transfer, was easier than configuring Linux and Windows to talk to each other without a hub and network cards. Unlike with HDs, CD-RW data cannot be recovered later, erasing wipes the bumps and holes\pits in the CD media that the laser sees as difference in reflection and the computer gets those as data-- you melt them flat when erasing.

I would get a burner first, or possibly if skilled stick the Widnows HD in the Linux box as a slave drive, mount what you want to read partition wise, then transfer what you want in the linux box itself-- unless this an XP HD, you can read data into Linux this way-- not programs, but font and music files, and such. That is the cheapest way. Next cheapest is to upload onto web, and download in Linux box, then wipe from server on web-- I can do limted amounts of this legally, myself, but cannot legally allow others to do so on my hosting space for the kind of things you need to transfer, so can only suggest this as a possible last option for favorite files in limited size amounts.

John, suggesting that for now, another way might be easier unless you want to learn a lot and are patient and have lots of time.

hehe thanks no i dont got a burner but i think im just going to get my linux box on the net it sounds easyer to do it that way and either put the songs on a server or just download them again but i was hope i could have them on there this week but oh well thanks

Ok you seem to know about hard drives and mounting i have the original HD in there now and i wanna put another one in there but when i put it in it say something like not bootable media something like that and it does this when i make the new HD slave but when i put the new one as the main HD it all works fine but my prob is that linux is on the old HD and windows is on the "new" i got from my friend so y isent it working like it recongines it when its the main so i know it works but it doenst like to be a slave????

Um, the HD has jumpersd on its back. Can you give me the name of company who made and the numbers on it so I cna figure out how to jumper it right???

Basicly, what your firend eiother did nto know or did not tell you, is THREE things have to happen for a computer to use a HD at all. FIRST, slave needs to eb on same cable as main drive for things to work easiest. Second, drive you want as main HD needs to be jumpered as MASTER, then slave as slave (not ALWAYS, but figuring out when this is not needed is harder than jsut doing this). Half the time, what goes where in littel thing called jumper block is right on new HDs, on same label as the model number is.

At a guess, what happened with the HD on the cable with the other is they were both jumpered master, or the HDs were both jumpered Cable Select and both WANTED to be master because of where they were hooked\conencted onto cable. so, fix is to jumper one you want to boot\start up from as master, and this needs to be the Linux drive. Second, the one your friend gave you gets jumpered as SLAVE. (SL if they only wrote that in white on bottom of drive right on card on underside of drive).

NEXT, we need to get the computer to figure out it has TWO HDs now. That requires fiddling with the BIOS setup, tellingit first to autodetect the HDs and see if it finds both. THEN, if true, you can save the bios settings and exit, and when it restarts by itself (supposed to do this), you should have Linux up and running. If false, not finding HDs, then we need to figure out why and that can =get complex. So, I am not gonna write about that part until know you ahve probelms doing what I worte and dealt with explaining more how to do that.

This is not Linux, this is HARDWARE config stuff that has to happen first.

If you have problems, I need to know what is written on label on both HDs. From there, 90% chance I can figure out how to get running together on one box.

Linux can read Windows stuff, Windows cannot read Linux stuff off of a HD in same box without a LOT of outside help(generally this Windows looking at Linux is just a NOT! kinda thing if on one box, other way works real good.).

So, see what is on HD labels and see what you do not understand about what I just typed. Then ask for what you need to understand (AKA grok, really understand).

John.

John.

HAHAHAHA ya i knew about the jumpers and everything haha i tryed to do that and i still got the same results so then i lookecd harder at the jumper settings and i relized that the HD was up side down hahaha well thanks for ur help

Ok, got that T-Shirt also-- in fact first HD I got, back in the late 1980's, I can remember having working for about 10 seconds. that was how long it took before the HD controller card died-- it did not like getting 12 volts instead of 5 volts. Surprisingly, back then the mfrr RMA'd the thing for me under warranty.

Yeah, is label side up-- green side DOWN, unlike SOD, for HDs. In the case of some Seagates, that rule has to be shiny side up, the underside has a thin rubber insulating sheet to protect the card on some of their HDs.

Happy junmpering fix worked.

John.