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11-07-2004, 11:03 AM
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Minimal linux with apache
Hello people,
I have a machine with the foll config.
P1 mmx 200
64 mb ram
100 mb hdd
I want to install *any* distro of linux on it and install apache.
And use it as a notice board kind of stuff for my LAN.
I've searched the net a lot but did not find anything smaller than 50 megs and installs on the hdd.
DSL asks for 200 mb for a hdd install.
Please suggest me a solution.
Ps : Im not that great at linux to build my own LFS.
But i can do it if someone guides me  [ Im really good at windows ]
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11-07-2004, 12:21 PM
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Well... just get another hard drive.
I mean, 100 megs is plenty for some apps... and some distros.. but when it comes down to it, in today's world getting a used 2gig hard drive is easy as free.
Go to your local PC shop... ask if they have any old (working) 2 or 3 gig hard drives that they would not mind parting with.
At most you will have to drop 5 bucks... but most places will hand them out like candy.
OR..
You could also find a larget hard drive on the street.. here in Toronto if you can't find an old box on the side of the road with working innards, then you are just not looking.
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11-07-2004, 12:26 PM
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Thanx for the reply,
But for me its really about getting it done with the 100 meg hdd. And we still dont get hdds so cheap and easy around here...
All i want is the kernel + apache serving pages. Thats all.
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11-07-2004, 12:46 PM
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Well you will need a bit more then just a kernel and apache.
Where are you from BTW?
As for the 100 megs... If you want to get creative, You could get the majority of the system on a CD and the rest on the hard disk.
/lib
/bin
/sbin
/opt
/usr
all on the CD
and
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/home
/root
/boot
/proc
/etc
/sys
/dev
/mnt
/tmp
/var
all on the hard drive.
Then all you would have to do is be creative with startup scripts and your fstab.
Sure it will be a bitch to update and upgrade your system... but this way, you can get a full web server out of such an older box.
Also, you might want to limit apache log usage. . . because with only 100 megs.. well you get the idea.
Good luck.
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11-07-2004, 12:52 PM
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I've heard people put up linux with just 8megs of space.
So i thought this wont be a big deal.
Nyways im from Bombay [ India ]
Would still love to have a solution to this from someone.
I dont need x or any other software.
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11-07-2004, 01:06 PM
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Well linux can fit on a floppy if you wanted it to... but you need a webserver.
Why not try Google? Or DistroWatch? Search around for a smallish distro.
If you have more ram (around 128 or more) then DSL would work just fine. You just need to install the image in 'frugal_install' mode. I guess it could work with 64 megs too... but you might need some extra swap space.
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11-07-2004, 01:11 PM
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Isnt there a webserver distro under 50 megs ?
I tried distro watch for minimalistic distros. But all of them are cd installs. I want it to be installed on the hdd. i have 64 megs and DSL needs 200 megs for the hdd install. I dont understand what "frugal_install" is. Im fuessing its like creatin a ramdisk and loading it there. But that doesnt suit my purposes of a webserver....
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11-07-2004, 01:24 PM
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frugal_install is when you install the image of the CD in readonly mode under another file system on your hard drive... thus making the install just 48megs large on your disk. Then partition the rest of the disk into an area for your web pages and the rest goes to swap. It's like having the CD on your disk.
I read your post about it needing 200 megs and you only having 100megs to work with... I'm not that bad in math... so please, look into what I have noted (google maybe or look at DSL's site) before regurgitating your pathitic cry again. thanks.
On that note... I really don't feel like trying to help you anymore...
Good luck, and try to understand that everyone here is just like you -- we don't get paid to do this.
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11-07-2004, 01:28 PM
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Hey, did not want to offend you or anything.
Anyways, was just trying to help you help me.
Will look at dsl site.
Thanx for all the help and info. 
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11-07-2004, 01:36 PM
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You did not offend me...
I just don't hold hands when it comes to getting a job done in linux.
People would learn a lot more if they do the research and apply it for their solution.
So I am more then willing to point people in the right direction, but I'm not going to hold their hand for the journey.
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11-12-2004, 10:50 AM
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freesco.org
Fits on a floppy, has it's own webserver just dont bother with the routing stuff.
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11-12-2004, 11:57 PM
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its software router ..
and doesnt not have Ip Forwarding ......
and you need more than 3 netcards buddy IN THE ROUTER ALONE!!
heh heh
Please correct me if im wrong.
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11-15-2004, 07:56 AM
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Yes your very wrong
It can route with 1-5 network cards, and has IP forwarding.
It's essentially a Linux, stripped. You can add a whole variety if packages to it to make it a proper os, but for what you need, it's fine. It will server a web page to your Lan. which answers your initial question.
Read the documentation, and you'll see. Freesco kicks arse!!!
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