Linux on a verey old computer
 

Hi
I tought to install Linux on a verey old computer (5-6 years old).
I have tried to install Red Hat 9.0 with KDE but it's works verey slow.

I know there is other XWin Graph Desktop env. when KDE and Gnome, but I have no idé how to install them.

- Where do I find such packages?
- And what do I do with them.

The purpose of my Linux is to learn more about the OS and run a webserver test env. a L.A.M.P solution.

I ned the x-win func in order to preview the result.

br.
Mattias

well, fluxbox probably hosts the best feature/ease/performance of the "lightweight" window managers. You can install it using KDE, i.e., and when installed, switch to it.

You can comfortably run it on a ¿ Pentium 133, i.e. ?

www.fluxbox.org

The trade-off (with fluxbox or whatever not being KDE or GNOME) is that you end configuring by hand editing files instead of using wizards.

another vote for fluxbox for a minimalist WM. You could also see if blackbox is on your system, and use that. Flux and blackbox are VERY similar, but flux allows a few more goodies.

Thanks for tips, I will try to install any of them this evening.

I installed redhat 9.0 on the computer but without both gnome and kde. When i run startx did something called xterm started.

How is xterm compared with blackbox and fluxbox? Where do I find more information about xterm WM.

Br/Mattias

xterm is a terminal emulator...

blackbox and fluxbox are window managers...

if you still want the info about xterm you can get it here:

http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.faq.html


i'd like to put a vote in for blackbox, as it's what i use everyday...

486(100mhz) and 16MB??? no problem!!!

=)


fluxbox is indeed awesome too (by the way it's based on blackbox and quite compatible)...


if you install the so deliciously beautiful APT system, then installing blackbox would be as easy as:

apt-get install blackbox


you can get apt here (if you want):

http://shrike.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=1213


also, it's good to keep in mind that there are some awesome distros out there made specially to run on low-spec machines, for example:

http://delilinux.berlios.de/


here's a few more "light window manager" links:

http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/

http://www.icewm.org/

http://www.xfce.org/

http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/

http://sapphire.sourceforge.net/


good luck!!!

I try to install both fluxbox and blackbox.

I get error after./configure
"Blackbox requires the X windw Systems labraries and headres"

I have tried it both in twm and regular commando line with no WM. Both times as root. The same error for flux box.

Not if it's networked to another PC. You would just connect and view the page in your browser.

2damncommon
I want both to connect with the localhost and the webbhotell. I have ben abel to start mozilla in the TWM (?) environement , but not ben abbel to connect to the adsl (tried adsl-setup) nor set up an easier wm such blackbox.

Br
Mattias

try using a binary rpm instead of compiling source code...

RPM makes software installation EASY (for the most part)...


you can get the blackbox rpm here:

http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrp...0-fr4.i386.rpm


then just do a:

rpm -ivh blackbox-0.65.0-fr4.i386.rpm


once the rpm is installed, create a file called ".xsession" (notice the DOT) in your home folder with only something like this in it:

exec /usr/bin/X11/blackbox

that will make blackbox be used for your account whenever you start X...

I am nor sure what "webbhotell" is.
I am guessing the other comments are about the old computer you are setting up as a server.
If you mean you have Mozilla running on the old computer, and if you have Apache installed and running, typing "127.0.0.1" in the address bar will connect you to Apache.
If you have your server connected VIA network cards to another local computer, you can view your webpages by typing your assigned IP in the address bar and would not need to have Xwindows running on the server at all. You can use ssh (or telnet, ugh...) for issuing commands. The other computer can be running Linux or Windows, no matter.