Is Debian right for me? For speed, stability and using Skype.
I'm looking for stability, light weight and speed, wide access to packages, not super-geeky. I also need Skype audio to work - if webcam works, that would be even better.
Whichever distro I go with, I plan to stick with Openbox and LXDE for the window manager and desktop environment. (I've gone geekier than I planned to by using just OpenBox, which is great but a stretch for my level. Sometimes I use LXDE, which I like - it's easier but not quite as light.) I've had lots of problems on my system (ThinkPad R60), with wifi and general stability; Xubuntu 7.04 and Ubuntu 7.10 were extremely buggy for me. Mandriva has been the best for me so far, and wifi works on Mandriva 2009.0, but there are still things that don't work: audio on Skype, and when I use LXDE or OpenBox I have problems with flash and audio; when I use GNOME I have occasional crashes of the OS and frequent crashes of Firefox/Swiftfox. I could spend more time hacking at it (days and weeks of frustration, I estimate) or I could go back and try a more recent release of Ubuntu as some have suggested... but I'd rather go with something that is fundamentally more stable. I'm leaning towards Debian (the standard release, not the development release). A geek friend says he prefers something like Ubuntu as it has more cutting edge stuff. My reaction is that:
Another possibility, for stability and speed, seems to be Arch Linux, but too big a step for me right now. Forcing you to compile every package seems like it would make for less hardware conflicts (I'm guessing). That's something to think about later though, after I've spent some time with Linux geeks learning things like how to make shell scripts and compile programs. (I've looked up some how-tos on shell scripts and it was not clear – and I don't have spare time to spend days and weeks learning on my own.) I'm in Guatemala at the moment, so hanging out with geeks at a LUG is probably some months away. So – how does that reasoning sound? Is Debian the right choice for me? |
If you want something conservative and stable, but not too geeky, then Debian is probably a good choice. It has automated package management with dependency resolution, but is rock solid and stable.
However, my main problem with Debian has been its fanaticism about non-free software. If you want to be able to use Flash Player, play mp3s, and other things which people expect to be able to do with an operating system "out of the box", you're out of luck. Debian seems to make you bend over backwards to do such things. It is possible to enable extra repositories, but I never managed to work out its complex package management system. If you're tempted by Arch Linux for those reasons, then you really need to try Slackware. I've had a few months out in the wilderness, OS hopping, and now I'm coming back to it with the new 12.2 release. Compiling from source code isn't that hard, just follow the following steps: Download source in tar.gz format. cd to the directory you saved it to. tar -xvzf [name of .tar.gz file] (or tar -xvjf for .tar.bz files) cd to the new directory created. ./configure make su root (or use sudo if you're more comfortable with that method) make install This process must be followed for all the dependencies, starting with the lowest level of dependency (ie. the dependency of the dependency of the dependency). If that's too much trouble, simply use the installpkg and upgradepkg commands and use pre-packaged Slackware binaries, and do the same for its dependencies. If you decide to go ahead, I'm more than happy to help. I'm new to this forum. I know how hard it is migrating to Linux or using more "difficult" distros so I want to try and help people make the leap. There's so many forum users, who post saying "rtfm" or ask you to supply your entire hardware specifications and version numbers for every library you have, as well as a print of every text file in your /etc directory before they will answer your question. And then they still don't. We'll never fight the Windows monopoly unless people are willing to help each other more instead of trying to belittle "newbies" to boost their own egos. |
InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T60/etch - Debian Wiki
http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDeb...nkpad/T60/etch Debian works just fine on the Thinkpads. Installing flash,java, multimedia codecs is easy. |
I think Vector Linux would be ideal for you
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apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree or use the debian-multimedia.org repo and install flashplayer-mozilla
How is that difficult? Or use Synaptic and search for flash. Shockwave Flash File name: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15 |
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I'm also impressed that Slackware is the only Linux (or BSD) distribution that gets on with my Radeon 512MB AGP graphics card "out of the box" and lets me watch films without lots of flashing, stuttering, jerking etc. Anyway, I hope you have better luck with Debian than I did, because one thing's for sure, OS hopping isn't much fun. Quote:
I found Kubuntu (and Xubuntu) much more idiot-proof than Debian for package management, though I do appreciate it is a little too "cutting-edge" and therefore less stable. Sorry, I am a "newbie", only been with Linux for about 18 months now, still a lot to learn. However, I find I'm learning more from the distributions that keep it simple and give me complete control. |
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