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Old 03-15-2002, 10:14 AM   #16
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Re: Red Hat Linux is just fantastic


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Hello all,

Red Hat Linux is just fantastic.

I think 'digital bots' is an old M$ Windoz user and hence have developed computer skills like playing with mice, but Linux require some other skill than your ability to play with the mice, it requires a good BRAIN. Try to use that tiny module over your shoulder, study Linux with some good book, search over the net for any help you require through www.google.com/linux and will find your Linux as smooth as the OS you are playing with now.

My PC runs on Red Hat Linux and runs as a total Infotainer for me.

I mostly work on PHP-MySQL development, teach C to a group students (gcc obviously), surf with Konqueror, Check mail with K-mail, sometimes to Image editing with GIMP, and all my homecentric applications of M$ Office with the K-office set.

My parents and niece plays mp3 on XMMS and dvd/vcd on XINE. They have got their separate accounts for Entertainment too.

What else you do think you can get from a PC??

Love,
Kausik

I am glad that some one here thinks i have a brain............... Man i think your wrong for saying half of that crap. I had issues with my gcc thats all. As far as everything else i can do it in linux. I do know how to kill programs, run apps, play my mp3s and such i just didnt know how to upgrade my gcc so that i could run mplayer. I had XINE running i just wanted to install another media player.
 
Old 03-16-2002, 12:55 AM   #17
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kausik, I think you're off the mark there....

I'll admit that I know very little about administering various Unix systems, but I've worked in Solaris, Linux, HP-UX, and AIX for several years.

I first tried RedHat around 5.x, and it seemed quite decent on my old P133

But RedHat 7.2 on my AMD 500MHz? I've been PLAUGED with problems, and if I'm lucky, the system would actually allow root to log in.

Unlucky, either installation would exit abnormally, or I'd get segmentation faults during bootup.

Keep in mind that this is a dual-boot machine, and Win98 of all things doesn't seem to have any problems with anything, so I know it's not a hardware issue.

Heck, I've even done one or two installs of Solaris 2.6 on Sparcstations, and didn't have trouble with 'em. And I'll admit that I still don't think I quite knew what I was doing other than the basic partitioning.

Even with 7.2, when I did their standard Workstation install, it barfed (technical term)

So, ah, don't jump to conclusions about other people's competency.
 
Old 03-16-2002, 05:21 AM   #18
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i had suse 7.2 and now have red hat 7.2 on another computer, windows xp on my 3rd computer. i tend to find windows boring., though i am fairly new to linux, it seems to be somewhat of a struggle. i can see where linux is very interesting, i finally found out how to config soudn card with red hat - su - sdconfig. i like the desktop with red hat better than suse, unless they have changed it in suse 7.3. my 2 cents worth

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Old 03-16-2002, 06:48 AM   #19
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kausik, I think you're off the mark there....

I'll admit that I know very little about administering various Unix systems, but I've worked in Solaris, Linux, HP-UX, and AIX for several years.

I first tried RedHat around 5.x, and it seemed quite decent on my old P133

But RedHat 7.2 on my AMD 500MHz? I've been PLAUGED with problems, and if I'm lucky, the system would actually allow root to log in.

Unlucky, either installation would exit abnormally, or I'd get segmentation faults during bootup.

Keep in mind that this is a dual-boot machine, and Win98 of all things doesn't seem to have any problems with anything, so I know it's not a hardware issue.

Heck, I've even done one or two installs of Solaris 2.6 on Sparcstations, and didn't have trouble with 'em. And I'll admit that I still don't think I quite knew what I was doing other than the basic partitioning.

Even with 7.2, when I did their standard Workstation install, it barfed (technical term)

So, ah, don't jump to conclusions about other people's competency.
this is funny i think i know what may be wrong with your red hat. Ok what happed to me is that my copy acted up like yours did so go to www.bootdisk.com then find the utilites page. Then download a program called wipe then put it on a win98 bootdisc then wipe the drive this will clear all the sectors on the drive making the HD like new then try to install it again. Becauase I had issues like yours man, and thats how i fixed it.
 
Old 03-18-2002, 06:18 AM   #20
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Quote:
Originally posted by King V
kausik, I think you're off the mark there....

I'll admit that I know very little about administering various Unix systems, but I've worked in Solaris, Linux, HP-UX, and AIX for several years.

I first tried RedHat around 5.x, and it seemed quite decent on my old P133

But RedHat 7.2 on my AMD 500MHz? I've been PLAUGED with problems, and if I'm lucky, the system would actually allow root to log in.

Unlucky, either installation would exit abnormally, or I'd get segmentation faults during bootup.

Keep in mind that this is a dual-boot machine, and Win98 of all things doesn't seem to have any problems with anything, so I know it's not a hardware issue.

Heck, I've even done one or two installs of Solaris 2.6 on Sparcstations, and didn't have trouble with 'em. And I'll admit that I still don't think I quite knew what I was doing other than the basic partitioning.

Even with 7.2, when I did their standard Workstation install, it barfed (technical term)

So, ah, don't jump to conclusions about other people's competency.
kinda hilarious. I've worked with a lot of nixes my self as well: Solaris, BSD, Slackware and other linuxes and also redhat seawolf and enigma. never had any problems with those.
there's noting wrong with redhat. it's indeed about skills.
maybe you're used to bsd architecure but redhat is sysv and might be different from the things you're used to
 
Old 03-18-2002, 11:28 PM   #21
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Red Hat Linux

Digital bots,

My intention was not to hurt you but did this. Sorry friend. But would you mind to send me the exact error message that u are getting.

King V,
When I did finished assembling I had a problem while installing RHL though Windoz got installed and working fine on the same. My RHL installation never did completed because of some failure of memory. I became quite confident that it must be the extended partition of my HDD since Windoz is running fine. I formatted the whole thing, tried again and the same story repeated. Just for a try I replaced the RAM strips and RHL installation happened in a fly. Later, my vendor rang me up and said he got a replacement for the RAM strips since they were defective.

MORAL : if Windoz is playing well, it never mean that hardware is OK.

Kausik
 
Old 03-19-2002, 10:57 AM   #22
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BTW, Mandrake 8.2 is out now... give that a try

Redhat seems to just be the "in" thing to use. People think they are L33T for running it (because it's usually a bear to work with). I gave up on RH back in the 5.2 days and haven't regretted switching to Mandrake since.
 
Old 03-19-2002, 11:57 AM   #23
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BTW, Mandrake 8.2 is out now... give that a try

Redhat seems to just be the "in" thing to use. People think they are L33T for running it (because it's usually a bear to work with). I gave up on RH back in the 5.2 days and haven't regretted switching to Mandrake since.
I don't know what is "1337" about RedHat. it's just a sytem that runs properly. it's almost the same as mandrake. they are both SysV systems compared to the what I personally think is "1337" "cough" cough" is BSD types of systems like Slackware, OPEnBSD and stuff.

so what is so "1337" about RH????
 
Old 03-19-2002, 01:24 PM   #24
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so what is so "1337" about RH????
Nothing, nothing at all. It's just the trendy thing to use.
 
Old 03-25-2002, 10:14 PM   #25
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RedHat woes conclusion . .

Well, downloaded Mandrake 8.2

Voila! No problems at all. Doesn't crash, and doesn't give me a unique set of unpredictable symptoms every time I try to install.

Installed once, no problems since.

So either my download of the RedHat ISO images got rather bizarrely corrupted (enough to work, but not work right?) or something's wrong with RedHat 7.2 ISO images that can be downloaded.

Well, ok, I still have a sound problem with Mandrake, but that's something I'll have to deal with separately.
 
Old 03-25-2002, 11:45 PM   #26
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I am currently trying to do an LFS install, having problems here and there but that is the learning part. I have Redhat 7.2 installed as the first OS to get LFS installed. The only reason I have for Windows is to get my addiction to games out.
 
Old 03-26-2002, 10:32 AM   #27
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Once again someone needs to pull their head out of their ass before writing a critical reviews of a Linux distro. OK, so you're lazy and don't want to try to fix/learn anything, so go to a board and post that RedHat distro sucks because of your own ignorance. Since when is a distro judged by how it operates on YOUR PC? Never install something on 1 PC and then think that this applies to all the PC's running this distro. Ever tried compiliing from source as mentioned above? Do you even know what components you need to install to do the things you want to do? This is another severe case of Operator Error, someone that doesn't know what the hell they're doing, writing a harsh review of a distro because everything didn't auto-magiclly work like WinBlows. I suggest you do a litte research before putting such a ignorant post up.

 
Old 03-26-2002, 10:48 AM   #28
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The way I see it is they aren't any better than the ppl they bash for using Windows. They expect everything to work perfectly.
 
Old 03-26-2002, 03:54 PM   #29
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i tamed my rh now but i dont like mandrake it writes over your mbr if i could get it to boot from cd then i would give it a try.
 
Old 03-26-2002, 09:49 PM   #30
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RedHatMN . . do you have a problem?

Maybe I should just write you off as flame-bait, but I figure I should maybe give ONE attempt at being reasonable, since that's obviously more than you're willing to do.

And yes, I'm responding to your post in the other thread concerning this as well.

I am neither ignorant nor making uneducated assumptions, although I admit I'm not an expert at setting up Linux.

And I did consider and try to account for the possibility that the ISOs were corrupted or the CD-burns didn't go right.

"Cheap-ass generic software"??! I'm guessing you mean hardware. And while I admit it's dated, it's not generic. Not that you care to be constructive, but here's what the system consists of:

FIC PA-2013 motherboard (VIA MVP3 chipset)
AMD K6-II+ 450 CPU
ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo AGP video card
Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard (ES1370)
SMC 8013EWC ISA 10Mbit ethernet card (Western Digital 8013 chipset)
Toshiba 4x speed DVD ROM drive
Seagate 7200 RPM 20GB hard drive.

Generic you say? Who's making the "uneducated assumptions" now?

Where did you get the idea that I was writing "reviews" of Linux? Who gave me this job?

Where do you figure I'm lazy and don't want to fix/learn anything? I in fact started out by coming here and posting the symptoms, then trying to follow other threads where I found something similar happening.

I think the fact that Mandrake installed and functioned trouble-free is pretty much proof that there's no problems with the hardware.

Do I know what components I need to install? Not entirely, but I know that there's some things I shouldn't remove. And, I think that going with the default Workstation installation should put everything in that would be needed to run the system, right? To at least allow login? To at least get the system to run stably enough to even attempt to compile a kernel? When bootup spits out a few "segmentation faults" and even typing in "vi .Xdefaults" causes a segmentation fault, there's obviously a problem.

"Operator error" indeed!

You should probably think a little bit instead of posting an ignorant thread yourself. But you can't offer advice or help, all you can do is say that I need to pull my head out of my ass and that since it didn't work I must not know what I'm doing.

Gee, and I miraculously learned between the time I gave up on RedHat and tried Mandrake?


So, Mr. All-Wise and All-Knowing, perhaps you can tell us exactly what I've done wrong? All you've done thus far is rant.
 
  


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