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Old 08-10-2003, 04:13 PM   #1
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Freeze during install of Mandrake 9.1


I am installing Mandrake 9.1 from CDs which I previously used to successfuly install Linux two other times. However, this, my third installation, is not going well.

My computer is a Dell Vectra 350 Mhz. I have 224 Meg ram. A rewritable CD drive, and a plain CD-drive.

I am trying to dual boot install Mandrake 9.1 with Win 98. Win 98 is install on a 4 GB hard drive. I put in a 30 GB hard drive--half of it is partitioned for Win, and half I am using for the Mandrake install.

I stick the first CD in and boot to it fine. The installer seems to detect all my hardware fine. I choose my install packets and begin the installation process . . . the installation makes some progress, then freezes. This has happened three times, but it never freezes in the same place or on the same program. There is no error. The mouse can be moved across the screen, but the install bar does not progress (even after a very very lengthy wait), and I cannot cancel the installation. I cannot reboot and must turn off the computer to get out of this situation.

This has happened three times and I am at a loss as to the cause. Any help will be much appreciated.
 
Old 08-10-2003, 05:07 PM   #2
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I know it's worked before, but on different hardware, so: Had you checksummed the isos and after-burning cds?
How old is the hardware? Is an active network connected? Is Plug 'n' Play in the bios turned off?
 
Old 08-10-2003, 05:56 PM   #3
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Work . . . sorta

I am inclined to think it is/was a hardware problem. Here is why: I previously installed Linux on this Vectra before . . . since then I pulled out the old tiny hard drive that Linux was on and put in the 30 GB drive instead. I also added RAM and a CD-RW.

So, compared to a previous install that worked, I have only added new hardware, but since everything worked without the new hardware I am inclined to think it is still some type of hardware problem. (If you can understand that!)

I know people keep talking about checksumm, but I don't understand how, if my CDs worked once they won't work again. Are you saying that it is possible for a corrupted ISO to work on one system configuration and not another?

Plug n play is turned off in the bios.

I am on a LAN . . . but I'm not acting as a server. How could being connected to a LAN effect the installation?

Also, I managed to (finally) complete the installation . . . but not in the normal manner. I would like input as to why what I did worked, and why what I was doing before didn't work. This is what I did that worked:

Instead of using the slave CD drive I used the master CD-RW drive. Instead of installing in the graphical interface I installed via the text menus. This worked.

But why? I would almost say the stinkin' computer was acting as if it didn't have enough memory . . . except on my previous install with this computer I only had 96 MB where as this time I had an additional 128 MB for a total of 224 MB!

The other thing I think it might have been was trying to install on a slave CD drive. But that sounds stupid . . .

Mandrake is installed, so I am happy, but if any Gurus out there might know why I was having the trouble, I would be glad if they commented so I could know and avoid the problem in the future.

Thanks.
 
Old 08-11-2003, 01:50 PM   #4
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I have a master cdrw and a slave cd, and Mandrake always wanted me to use the master cdrw, so just go with it.

Yeah a non-checksummed iso could have any number of hidden errors. There may be a bit flipped in a kernal module, but you'll never notice til you use a different piece of hardware which needs it, and suddenly get /dev/random all over your drive or something. I have an Mdk9.1 disk1 with two broken packages, and know that if I try to install them the drive will spin on endlessly. Checksumming only takes a second.

Maybe your new ram is bad or wasnt installed correctly?
 
Old 08-30-2003, 06:46 PM   #5
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Will never know

I can't check the isos now because I burned the CD's and I think I got rid of them.

I haven't had any trouble with my memory when using it in Windows, or in any other part of Linux besides the install.

It's possible that the problem was related to an iso glitch, but based upon what you said I'm guessing it's more likely that the weirdness was because of Mandrake wanting me to use my master CD drive.

Anyhow, Linux is installed so I am happy.
 
Old 08-31-2003, 05:20 AM   #6
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iso files are images of the cds, so if you have the cds you can convert them to .iso files again, and then checksum. Should be easy to do after reading this.
 
Old 08-31-2003, 05:36 AM   #7
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Lightbulb My thoughts

I installed Mandrake 9.1 on a old 400MHz machine and there were several places where it seemed to be hung up. It was not though. I let it sit and after a few minutes, sometimes five minutes or so, it would take off again. I don't know why it would do this but it did it in several different places. The rig I'm on now did not do that at all. It just crammed it all in there in a real big hurry. Maybe the cpu gets hot or something.

My advice since the pointer was moving, do the install again and walk away till the next CD is needed.

My two cents worth.

 
  


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