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Pete Dogg 05-20-2003 10:17 PM

does Mandrake come with pico?

I'm a Mandrake 9 user and I can't find pico. Pico has been on ever other version of linux and unix i've used.

Does Mandrake 9 come with pico?
If not where can I get it?
And does anyone know why it doesnt come with Mandrake?


jailbait 05-20-2003 10:37 PM

missing pico
pico started life as the composer portion of an email program called pine. It is possible that both pine and pico are included in the Mandrake pine package.

BittaBrotha 05-20-2003 10:44 PM

If you have Pine text based email program then Pico should be included. If you have the main three disc for Mandy, then it should be on one of them.

Pete Dogg 05-21-2003 12:00 AM

I ran the rpmdrake Software Package Installation program and searched for pine and pico and got no results.
I then ran
rpm -qa | grep "pico"
rpm -qa | grep "pine"
and got back no results.

Does this mean Mandrake doesn't have pine and pico?

ksgill 05-21-2003 12:46 AM

I dont think pico comes with mandrake's regular installation.

Pete Dogg 05-21-2003 12:48 AM


Originally posted by Jatt_thugz
I dont think pico comes with mandrake's regular installation.
I found there site on U of Washington. I'm gonna download it there. Hope the install goes smooth :)

Crashed_Again 05-21-2003 01:18 AM

I thought pico was non-existent anymore. Its been replaced by nano right?

acid_kewpie 05-21-2003 04:21 AM

nope. nano is a seperate clone, pico (PIne COmposer) is always gonna be in pine.

Pete Dogg 05-21-2003 04:19 PM

Home come linux doesn't come with a good text editer like DOS's edit?

jailbait 05-21-2003 04:40 PM

Try mp
Probably the Linux editor closest to DOS edit is mp.

acid_kewpie 05-21-2003 06:00 PM


Originally posted by Pete Dogg
Home come linux doesn't come with a good text editer like DOS's edit?
that is a joke right....? what has this thread just been talking about...?

jailbait 05-21-2003 07:22 PM

that is a joke right....?

I don't know if Pete Dogg is joking or not. But many newbies who are used to GUI editors are very put off by vi and emacs, or any of their clones, when they first try them. I remember that my reaction to vi three years ago was so adverse that I tried every command line editor available. I finally chose mp, which is the least vi like command line editor available.

I have seen the opposite reaction by people who started out using vi. When they first see a GUI editor their reaction is often scornful.

So when I saw Pete Dogg's opinion that a good editor looks like DOS edit I took him seriously and pointed him toward the command line editor that comes closest to looking like DOS edit.

Aussie 05-21-2003 08:03 PM

If you have Midnight Commander installed you can edit text with 'mcedit', or from within MC by pressing F4 when the file is highlighted.

Pete Dogg 05-22-2003 12:24 AM

I wasn't joking. Pardon my comment if it came off ignorant.
I just find Dos Edit easy to use. there is a proper menu, which is accessible by pressing ALT.

My first text editor on linux was Pico. But my mandrake didn't come with that. So I started using vim, I don't want to use the GUI ones because I need to learn a lot about the shell so I can do everything via telnet.

It's not that vim 6.1 is so bad (it lets me use the cursor keys), but on the slackware 8 that my server uses there is some other clone version of vi which is awful.

My home box has vim 6.1, the server has elvis 2.1_4 for vi and vim 5.8.

Somehow it seems to me that the base text editor that comes with ALL linux distros is vi/vim this seems like a bad solution. There has to be something better to use as default. The text editor is so crucial yet it seems like it hasn't got very much attention.

I tried downloading pine and unziping it and building it, no luck.
I tried nano 1.2.1, tried unzip and compiling. no luck. I even tried the RPM but that required glibc2.3 and i have glibc2.2.5

I just installed the RPM for Opera 7.11 (not that i like opera, just wanted to see what it's like). Anyways I looked that the information and it seems like it was compiled against servel version of glibc.
Is this possible can someone compile a program linking to multiple versions of glibc? If so how come more people don't do that. Is it just lazyness on the part of the nano programmer or is there another technical reason which makes it difficult?

I'm afraid to attempt to download and compile glibc2.3 for fear it will break my system. I may however try it.

I'm going to try out Minimum Profit the program that jailbait suggested and see if I have any luck.

Pete Dogg 05-22-2003 05:30 AM

Im happy/content for now :)
I finally got nano compiled and installed.

Problem was, I had ncurses installed but not libncurses.

I even made a symbolic link to nano called pico, just incase i forget. Linux can be fun sometimes, when you get stuff to work.

You guys are great help. This is an awesome board.

Still not "Edit" but it's better than vim :) (at least to me)

It would be nice if Mandrake had come with Nano installed and a symbolic link to it when people typed pico. because Mandy is supposed to be a user friendly newbie distro. Maybe I'll email in a suggestion.

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