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04-29-2014, 01:34 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 1,075
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightron
If i knew i wouldn't have asked.
I can only infer that you think Slackware needs to be reinstalled to upgrade. I have no idea what you mean by the community leads to fewer choices.
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That's the part you meant.
I won't use Slackware because of the community, and I won't use a non rolling distro.
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04-29-2014, 03:12 AM
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#32
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: openSUSE
Posts: 1,469
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Yeah but what's wrong with the community? By the way, Slackware does have it's 'current' release which is a slow rolling release version.
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04-29-2014, 04:05 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 1,075
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The Slack community is too kumbaya, sticky, hippy, and religious...and yes Slack current is SLOW
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04-29-2014, 04:36 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: openSUSE
Posts: 1,469
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lol, do you have any idea how idiotic you sound? You're like someone coming onto the forum and making a thread like this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Linux Hipster
Urgent need help!
Hi, i'm new to using Linux OS. I'm trying to install Linux Mint Cinnamon edition and i keep getting stuck at the partition part. I don't care about M$ Windows, i only want to use Linux OS, because all Windows users are noobs who don't know how to use computers!!!
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04-29-2014, 04:48 AM
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#35
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 1,075
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I tried to keep it polite with out actually stating my opinion but you asked and go it and now I'm and idiot? Don't ask question you won't like the answer to.
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04-29-2014, 06:44 AM
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#36
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Member
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: /Universe/Earth/India/Pune
Distribution: Slackware64 -Current
Posts: 890
Rep: 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
The Slack community is too kumbaya, sticky, hippy, and religious...and yes Slack current is SLOW
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kumbaya, that's a new word for me today.
Regards.
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04-29-2014, 07:23 AM
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#37
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Moderator
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148
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@Knightron: I can see where Germany_chris is coming from. While the Slackware community in general is very knowledgeable and friendly, this can immediately change if the topic of the discussion is of a certain type. Try to bring up systemd, automatic dependency resolution or things like that and you will see an outrage coming. In fact, it is very hard to keep even purely technical discussions, like bartgymnast's effort to port systemd to Slackware, on topic and not turning into another systemd/Poettering/Red Hat bash-fest.
Some very vocal people can sometimes make the Slackware community in the public opinion look like a bunch of hostile neckbearded zealots.
I don't think that is idiotic, that is something I myself as a Slackware user have experienced already, sometimes to the point that I had to publicly state that I was ashamed of being a part of that community.
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04-29-2014, 07:58 AM
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#38
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Member
Registered: Oct 2009
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 534
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Maybe we should try keeping opinions about communities to ourselfs and, if possible, try to making it better only by involving ourself in (hopefully mature) discussions..
Slackware doesn't seem to have anything "special" community wise and is a typical one.. Like in all other places, some people will start bashing anyone that ever remotely suggest intend to leave the distro or dislike a feature or the "[insert ditro here] way"... Some will try to help with the accomodations and some will simply be ignorant in a "vocal" manner...
Ubuntu is the same, Mint is the same.. Arch is the same.. (Probably others I haven't read, too).. So why bother talking about it?.. That's what happens when lots of people with different preferences and, more importantly, different cultures or level of education, meet.. I've yet to see a forum or a community that relies just on argument-based discussions.. In fact, due to the large number of people with higher levels of knowledge and experience, sometimes the Slackware community will even surprise you by breaking this pattern and ignoring "bashes", FUDs, or, let's be serious.. by actually recommending other OSs/distribution where is applicable.. Try doing that in most other communities and you're going to have a full blown riot on your hands..
Now, with all due respect to Germany_chris, but the distribution you choose will help you.. It will be your system for better and worse.. The community around it should have no saying in it (maybe it's maximum a row in a advantages vs disadvantages table)...
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04-29-2014, 08:24 AM
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#39
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 1,075
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The community has just about everything to do with why people pick distro's. You can make any distro into anything you want it to be after all Linux is a tinker toy. This whole debate came to be when asked to clarify why I don't like Slackware's community then the upsetness happened. People are free to disagree with me it's the magic of life. My intent wasn't to start a war which is why my first post didn't elaborate just explain why I choose what I choose.
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04-29-2014, 08:27 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Detroit, MI
Distribution: GNU/Linux systemd
Posts: 4,278
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I've been on the Arch forums for some time now. I don't think I've seen any arguments like you've mentioned. Its a very technical site, and only drops to huge arguments a couple times a year when something big is being changed. But really for the most part, it's the most technically on-point forum I've seen.
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04-29-2014, 08:51 AM
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#41
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: openSUSE
Posts: 1,469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
and now I'm an idiot?
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From the moment you first replied to me, you've had a hostile attitude. I wasn't trying to rial you up. I originally asked because i thought you were misinformed about packages like many others have been in the past. I realised i was wrong when you replied, but then i was curious by what your issue with the community was.
I don't think you're an idiot Germany_chris, i never did, which is why i said you were "sounding" like an idiot. The difference is, that i was surprised from your out of character behaviour.
The example i gave was to show that's it's silly not to use an operating system because of the image you have of the other people whom like to use that operating system.
If your reasoning, is to do with the matters that TobiSGD brought up, then that's a valid argument, but those matters have nothing to do with being a sticky hippy. Being a Sticky Hippy is 100% optional.
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04-29-2014, 08:55 AM
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#42
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 1,075
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There was two parts to the post you initially quoted me on the old thread comment and the rest. I initially thought you were talking about the old thread comment, which is why in the next post I said "that's the part you meant".
As to the rest subjective views on any community are just that.
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04-29-2014, 08:56 AM
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#43
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Member
Registered: Oct 2009
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 534
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@Germany_chris: Hope you understand that I didn't accuse you of starting a war on this :P.. But anyway, we'll still going to disagree about distro-choosing.. You can tweek any distro to your likings, but how easy are they to tweek, how are updates provided and who provides them are far more important issues in my mind.. The community? Well, it helps.. It's important to have an active one, but I simply can't see it as a deal-breaker..
@szboard: While the Arch wiki is the most wonderful distribution wiki of all, the forum on the other hand.. Well, it's not bad, but I simply don't see it a purely on-the-point forum... It's looks.. well.. pretty typical to me..
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04-29-2014, 09:37 AM
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#44
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: openSUSE
Posts: 1,469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
There was two parts to the post you initially quoted me on the old thread comment and the rest. I initially thought you were talking about the old thread comment, which is why in the next post I said "that's the part you meant".
As to the rest subjective views on any community are just that.
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Yeah you're right, i presumed you'd know what part i meant. I was wrong. I see what you mean now, and understand that i've interpreted the presence of an emotion that wasn't really there.
Thanks for sharing you opinion of the community. It wasn't what i was expecting. Like i've stated i think that's a silly reason to stop one from using an os, if they enjoy the os enough, but i guess that's subjective too.
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