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05-18-2019, 06:55 AM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2015
Location: Italy
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, NuTyX, EXE GNU Linux, Tiny Core Linux, Antix, Slackware
Posts: 98
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Distro wanted
Hi!
After 13 years i use Linux i didn't think to post an article like this.
I am looking for a distro:
1. It is independent
2. it must to have alsamixer and no pulseaudio (i hate pulseaudio) and it doesn't want to use pulseaudio and it will not use pulseaudio!
3. It doesn't use and it will not use systemd
4. No gtk3 desktop
5. In installation i can to decide the boot loader and to exclude grub2 and to install syslinux/extlinux. It's all right also if i can to choose and to change after installation.
6. I prefer rolling distro but if it doesn't exist i could agree also others
7. 7 is perfect number but now i don't know what to add more (in this moment)
Bye
Francesco bat
Last edited by francesco bat; 05-18-2019 at 06:57 AM.
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05-18-2019, 07:11 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: Slack14.2/Many
Posts: 5,573
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05-18-2019, 07:12 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Pictland
Distribution: Linux Mint 21 MATE
Posts: 8,048
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Out of interest, what does a distro being "independent" mean?
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05-18-2019, 07:30 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2017
Distribution: FreeBSD
Posts: 2,252
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Void Linux maybe?
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-18-2019, 07:33 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342
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independent = not a knock off, but an original distro. Therefore not dependent on the original for support of any kind, ie their repos.
Which there are not that many out there, DW says 54 some are, Slackware, Debian, void Linux, Gentoo,
the rest listed here -----> list is here
Not all of them are meant for everyday home use.
13 years of using Linux and you're actually asking a question like this??? Ever heard of distrowatch? roll your own, asking for specifics that exact is like you not doing the work yourself.
Bye Francesco bat
Last edited by BW-userx; 05-18-2019 at 07:37 AM.
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2 members found this post helpful.
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05-18-2019, 07:50 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: florida panhandle
Distribution: Slackware Debian, Fedora, others
Posts: 7,843
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Slackware independent yes, systemd no Boot loader say no to default during installation, go into shell after running setup, and use whatever bootloader you want. Rolling distro, stable no, If you don't mind a few hiccups here and there slackware-current could be considered rolling, Pulseaudio yes, but there is info on how to setup where pulse audio isn't used. Yes it is recommended to install everything on a new install but with no package dependency checks you can choose what packages you want to install and not install If you know what your doing.
Last edited by colorpurple21859; 05-18-2019 at 07:59 AM.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-18-2019, 08:11 AM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2015
Location: Italy
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, NuTyX, EXE GNU Linux, Tiny Core Linux, Antix, Slackware
Posts: 98
Original Poster
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I have Slackware 14.02 stable but it's with pulseaudio.
I would to install also Absolute Linux current (Slackware based) but i don't want Pulseaudio.
How can i disinstall pulseaudio and to add alsamixer in slackware ?
Bye
Francesco bat
P.S Void is good but it also use pulseaudio :-(
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05-18-2019, 08:19 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342
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alsamixer is in slack, slackware uses it to drive Pulseaudio, or better said, Pulseaudio uses alsa for its platform , backend.
read up on PulseAudio you can rip it out and still use alsa. Perhaps on any distro even.. yes I'd say that is do able.
Last edited by BW-userx; 05-18-2019 at 08:22 AM.
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05-18-2019, 08:20 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: florida panhandle
Distribution: Slackware Debian, Fedora, others
Posts: 7,843
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05-18-2019, 08:37 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2011
Location: Upper Hale, Surrey/Hants Border, UK
Distribution: One main distro, & some smaller ones casually.
Posts: 5,872
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AntiX - Tiny Core Linux - SliTaz Linux - to name 3.
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05-18-2019, 10:32 AM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2015
Location: Italy
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, NuTyX, EXE GNU Linux, Tiny Core Linux, Antix, Slackware
Posts: 98
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colorpurple21859
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Thank you for post.
I made in this way and now it seems to use alsamixer but i see in execution also pulseaudio in the processes after reboot.
Is it possible exclude it from boot or better disinstall it from system without problems ?
Bye
Francesco bat
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05-18-2019, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slackware-15.0
Posts: 1,435
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Distro wanted
That's Slackware-current with pure-alsa-system in extra subdirectory ?!
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4 members found this post helpful.
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05-18-2019, 03:16 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: Slack14.2/Many
Posts: 5,573
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not sure about pulseaudio etc but this distro is arch based rolling distro without systemd
https://linux.softpedia.com/get/Linu...n-103816.shtml
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05-18-2019, 03:22 PM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2010
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by francesco bat
2. it must to have alsamixer and no pulseaudio (i hate pulseaudio) and it doesn't want to use pulseaudio and it will not use pulseaudio!
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First, I'm not sure if I understood you correctly but you can still change volume using alsamixer even if your system runs Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio runs on top of Alsa so Alsa will still be there. For example on my Slackware 14.2 system /etc/asound.conf contains this:
Code:
# ALSA system-wide config file
# By default, redirect to PulseAudio:
pcm.default pulse
ctl.default pulse
I'm not sure alsamixer will work with Bluetooth though, I cannot find my Bluetooth USB adapter right now.
Second, why do you hate Pulseaudio with such a passion?
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-18-2019, 04:10 PM
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#15
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2015
Location: Where ever needed
Distribution: Slackware/Salix while testing others
Posts: 1,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by francesco bat
Hi!
After 13 years i use Linux i didn't think to post an article like this.
I am looking for a distro:
1. It is independent
2. it must to have alsamixer and no pulseaudio (i hate pulseaudio) and it doesn't want to use pulseaudio and it will not use pulseaudio!
3. It doesn't use and it will not use systemd
4. No gtk3 desktop
5. In installation i can to decide the boot loader and to exclude grub2 and to install syslinux/extlinux. It's all right also if i can to choose and to change after installation.
6. I prefer rolling distro but if it doesn't exist i could agree also others
7. 7 is perfect number but now i don't know what to add more (in this moment)
Bye
Francesco bat
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Interesting and I would think after 13 years you would know the answer to those questions....
Look at Slackware, Devuan (although not independent, however it is mainly Debian minus systemd, but they lean towards Xfce and GTK so...)
LFS
*BSD
Given your requirements the list of possible distros is quite small.
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