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Old 01-15-2019, 05:06 PM   #1
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Can you tell me this about the "Pop!_OS" linux distro?


If anyone has access to a system running the Pop!_OS Linux distribution, could you please run these commands and post the output? Thanks.
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grep ^VERSION= /etc/os-release
cat /etc/system-release
cat /etc/lsb-release
I'm somewhat horrified that someone would put an exclamation point in an OS name and I want to see if they really did it.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 05:24 PM   #2
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You can download Pop_OS! from that page you linked to evaluate it for your needs. If you have a slow connection and don't want to download it yourself, just contact System76... they are super helpful people and I'm sure would be happy to answer your question. System76 has a whimsical and fun-loving "Colorado hipster" culture, hence the silly name.

(edit to add that I'm a satisfied customer typing this from a System76 computer)

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Old 01-15-2019, 05:34 PM   #3
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Yeah, I know. But I really only want the answer to that question, plus any comments about it that users might volunteer.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 05:54 PM   #4
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Sounds like a fun project.

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Old 01-15-2019, 07:18 PM   #5
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I have a few minutes to kill while I'm waiting for a potato to bake, so here you go:

Code:
pop-os@pop-os:~$ grep ^VERSION= /etc/os-release
VERSION="18.10"
pop-os@pop-os:~$ cat /etc/system-release
cat: /etc/system-release: No such file or directory
pop-os@pop-os:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=18.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=cosmic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Pop!_OS 18.10"
pop-os@pop-os:~$
 
Old 01-15-2019, 08:36 PM   #6
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It's Ubunututu enough said.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 09:28 PM   #7
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Pop! OS is a Ubuntu derivative developed by System 76 for their line of native Linux computers.

Personally, I think it's a silly exercise in branding, but, so far as I have heard, it works okay.
 
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I have a few minutes to kill while I'm waiting for a potato to bake, so here you go:

Code:
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Pop!_OS 18.10"
pop-os@pop-os:~$
Thank you. That's what I was looking for. I don't know exactly what problem it might cause, but you have to be careful to quote an exclamation point. It could be a nuisance. Though I notice they don't put it in the prompt.


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It's Ubunututu enough said.
I wasn't sure if you meant that in a good way or a bad way, but I see you're a Slackware user.

At least Ubuntu doesn't have an obnoxious exclamation point in it's name.
 
Old 01-16-2019, 07:23 AM   #9
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Thank you. That's what I was looking for. I don't know exactly what problem it might cause, but you have to be careful to quote an exclamation point. It could be a nuisance. Though I notice they don't put it in the prompt.

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It's Ubunututu enough said.

I wasn't sure if you meant that in a good way or a bad way, but I see you're a Slackware user.

At least Ubuntu doesn't have an obnoxious exclamation point in it's name.
it is more neutral actually. Yet, by your response using Slackware as a to "get back at me' just in case it was a "personal" attack on Ubunututu and them that use it?

It's Ubuntututu. (Windows apron strings.)

Its the goto Distro for (most of) them that are (wanting/trying to) leaving Windows behind. It is the methadone for the Windows users that are not really able to let go of Windows and get on with life.

That is not distro bashing, per se' it is an very lose assessment of personality types. It falls under coping mechanisms related to stress. This option cannot / should not by anyways or means be taken too seriously because it has no clinical test data to back it up.

I am using Mint at the moment, which is a knock off of Ubuntutututu, which is a knock off of Debian. Because it is the only one I've found that I can still add a desktop / window manager to my liking not the one that it "ships" with, and it works with my iPhone, whereas all of the others do not. Yet, I still find myself looking for something else.

Ubunututu was designed for what purpose?
I rest my case.

On naming schemes. you'd have to ask them the why behind it. I can only surmise.
 
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Thank you. That's what I was looking for. I don't know exactly what problem it might cause, but you have to be careful to quote an exclamation point. It could be a nuisance. Though I notice they don't put it in the prompt.
As you may know, you can avoid problems with ! in bash shell by preceding the ! with a backslash \ or enclosing the whole thing in quotes.

I used #! Linux for years, so the idea of a distro with a ! in its name is not at all foreign or strange to me.

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exactly what snowpine said, there are plenty of distos out there to pick from, but only a hand full of originals in which they where derived from.

install it, and figure out how to use it, how to curtail it to your needs, and not the defaults it was installed with. Something that is much harder to do with Windows.

I do not see how having an exclamation point in its name will effect the over all operation of that disto.

which reminds me, I actually downloaded it last night to check it out. Now I will finish burning it to a usb stick and do that.

done: it's nothing to snezze about,

I did just find this one
BackSlash Linux
it has a mac look, and says it has fingerprint support,
sourceforge, or its sight something different?

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Old 01-16-2019, 10:06 AM   #12
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If you let me know which commands you think might "cause problems" or "be a nuisance" I would be happy to test them for you (or give you instructions how to run Pop!_OS in a VM so you can test-drive it for yourself).
I write, maintain and use lots of bash scripts. My convention is to precede most commands of consequence with "$EVAL" which becomes 'echo #' if I use the -n or --dry-run switch, but defaults to 'eval' to keep the quoting level consistent.

While very helpful, even a lifesaver, this means sensitive lines have to be two-level quoted. And if the command of consequence is an awk command, it already has come command lines that are quoted or two-level quoted. Plus awk and sed have some characters that have to be quoted and some that you don't want to quote. And a backslash may or may not need another backslash. And the '$()' syntax allows quotes inside of quotes to work, which is different than everywhere else.

And one thing my scripts sometimes check is the distro. As I said, I don't know of any problem it would cause for me, but there's some chance it could. Not to mention, I think it's ugly.

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Otherwise, let's not spread F.U.D. about the new distro on the block.
OK. And let's not spread F.U.D about the question I asked. I didn't disdain the quality of the distro. I said, "I'm somewhat horrified that someone would put an exclamation point in an OS name ..." That's not in any way F.U.D. It's an absolute, undeniable fact.

You urge me to try it, but why would I want to do that? I do try out an occasional distro here and there. But with one strike against it, I would have to have a reason to try this one.
 
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Very true, I agree.

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Old 01-16-2019, 10:20 AM   #14
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Yet, by your response using Slackware as a to "get back at me' just in case it was a "personal" attack on Ubunututu and them that use it?
No, it's just that "enough said" is ambiguous. It could either mean that you love it or hate it. I have encountered the occasional fanatical Slackware user, so when I took a quick look and saw Slackware on your sidebar, I thought that might be what you are. I didn't notice the "Mint" or Ubuntu icon until after I posted.

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Because it is the only one I've found that I can still add a desktop / window manager to my liking not the one that it "ships" with, ...
Interesting. I just switched to my favorite, IceWM, on the Ubuntu machine I was using when I posted. I had to ditch gdm3 in favor of xdm because it wouldn't call my ~/.xsession file.
 
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It occurs to me you could simply test your scripts in Pop!_OS if you are curious, and stop wasting other peoples' time.
Why do you continue to harass me about it? Perhaps you're hurt that I said something other than glowing about your new distro. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion.
 
  


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