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Old 01-11-2006, 01:22 PM   #1
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Best version of Linux to support AMD64, SCSI hard drive?


Hi, I'm a newbie to Linux, but am wondering the best version of Linux to support AMD64 using a SCSI hard drive. I download and tried installing using the latest Debian64 (Test folder), but when it came down to partitioning, it wouldn't let me do anything.

[Edit] Specifically, I am using an Adaptec aic-7901. I think the device is seen, but no driver is loaded for that controller

Note: I prefer to avoid Gentoo

Thanks.

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Old 01-12-2006, 02:53 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by phyx
Hi, I'm a newbie to Linux, but am wondering the best version of Linux to support AMD64 using a SCSI hard drive. I download and tried installing using the latest Debian64 (Test folder), but when it came down to partitioning, it wouldn't let me do anything.

[Edit] Specifically, I am using an Adaptec aic-7901. I think the device is seen, but no driver is loaded for that controller

Note: I prefer to avoid Gentoo

Thanks.
Mandriva 2006
or
SuSE 10.0
have great hardware support

including the X86_64 version
 
Old 01-15-2006, 07:29 AM   #3
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Curious as to why you're wanting to avoid Gentoo...
 
Old 01-15-2006, 05:02 PM   #4
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Curious as to why you're wanting to avoid Gentoo...
gentoo is a hobbyiests toy.

With its excessive compile time to install simple updates
no central way to configure anything (most distros have their own central configuration software Yats MCC etc)

no way to automatically! repair a faulty install
no clear cut way to quick bug updates.
oh did i mention unneccessary hassle to install it.

and
since release of x86_64 for athlon systems
gentoo no longer has the advantage of software perfectly suited to AMD64 systems.
 
Old 01-16-2006, 04:06 AM   #5
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gentoo is a hobbyiests toy.

With its excessive compile time to install simple updates
no central way to configure anything (most distros have their own central configuration software Yats MCC etc)

no way to automatically! repair a faulty install
no clear cut way to quick bug updates.
oh did i mention unneccessary hassle to install it.

and
since release of x86_64 for athlon systems
gentoo no longer has the advantage of software perfectly suited to AMD64 systems.
Worst post ever. Do you work in Microsoft's UNIX lab?

Gentoo's superb flexibility and baselayout make it ideal for a load of uses. I have it in use on production servers right now. No central way to configure anything? Uhhhh... there's this thing called portage. It does alot of the leg work for you, places example config files that are rich in documentation, and provides a way to manage multiple versions of the same software.

And on modern hardware -- the compile time gripe is a myth. Once the system is up most things take very little time to compile, not to mention the fact that one can add binary repositories to go with binary packages already in portage (such as mozilla-firefox-bin and openoffice-bin).

Gentoo has a top notch security center and loads of very useful documents for locking things down.

Your claim that there is no way to repair a faulty install is laughable. Most of the Recovery LiveCDs out there are based on Gentoo.

Keep the FUD at home -- just the facts here ma'am.
 
Old 01-16-2006, 06:20 AM   #6
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Did you even bother reading your own post mate?

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Worst post ever. Do you work in Microsoft's UNIX lab?

Gentoo's superb flexibility and baselayout make it ideal for a load of uses. I have it in use on production servers right now. No central way to configure anything? Uhhhh... there's this thing called portage. It does alot of the leg work for you, places example config files that are rich in documentation, and provides a way to manage multiple versions of the same software.
Gentoo is suited to Specific!! uses not loads of them

Gentoo may be suited to a Pentium 4 (i786)
since most distros are compiled for MMX only Pentiums.
or a PC that sits in the corner gathering dust.
but something your going to add new software regularly or even from time to time gentoo is not a good choice.
In your case dedicated servers are what it is for


i have used gentoo for a period of 3 months and am well aware of the existance of Portage.
Portage Installs Software.

I mentioned Configure! which is more broad than the ./configure command.
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con·fig·ure (kən-fĭg'yər) pronunciation
tr.v., -ured, -ur·ing, -ures.

To design, arrange, set up, or shape with a view to specific applications or uses:  configured the computer by setting the system's parameters.
where an interface to change parameters for hardware, mount point, user, shares.
Portage doesnt do that.


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And on modern hardware -- the compile time gripe is a myth. Once the system is up most things take very little time to compile, not to mention the fact that one can add binary repositories to go with binary packages already in portage (such as mozilla-firefox-bin and openoffice-bin).
yes there prebuilt but it is the ort of thing that should be t the default option to qualify as a reasonable End user System

Myth? im not even going to bother.
i have used Gentoo on an Athlon XP and my new Athlon X2

the manual labour alone to configure hardware and scripts on a stage 3 install,
just wasnt worth the effort.

On top of which i ended up with redundancy hell from a broken package in the tree.

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Gentoo has a top notch security center and loads of very useful documents for locking things down.
So do all other ditros they all employ the same Security GPL software believe it or not. However there isnt a good centre interface to access that most notable distros make available.

when you use security centre and documents in the same sentence i'm going to assume its still compulsary in gentoo to manually edit those config files without a user interface.
Whats the Antonym/opposite of Automatic?
"Note Answer at bottom"


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Your claim that there is no way to repair a faulty install is laughable. Most of the Recovery LiveCDs out there are based on Gentoo.
Keep the FUD at home -- just the facts here ma'am.
Flamebait!!!! Alert

reread my post You fool
i mentioned NO AUTOMATED OR SIMPLE RECOVERY PROCESS
in reference to the Gentoo Install CD in relation to a gentoo Installation.

here i'll make it easier for you
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Au·to·mat·ic·al·ly
adv.

In an automatic manner. 

au·to·mat·ic (ô'tə-măt'ĭk) pronunciation
adj.
1. Acting or operating in a manner essentially independent of external influence or control: an automatic light switch; a budget deficit that triggered automatic spending cuts.

2. Self-regulating: an automatic washing machine.
which Gentoo doesnt do in its current form

Mandriva and Suse may or maynot employ a Gentoo based recovery CD but your rash statement is completely irrelevant
since mandriva suse etc add their own software methods to simplify and improve its automated and user friendly recovery process.

Gentoo Installer CD relies on the user knowing the problem and manually fixing the culrit text config file.


But like i said Gentoo is for enthusiasts only.
It is not an end user Operating System.

Antonym of Automatic : by hand, manual


X86-64 pre compiled Binaries are equal to manually compiling for x86-64.
All x86=64 processors support MTRR, MMX+, SSE2, CPU scaling, and many other advances.
i586 binaries prevented these being available to i686 i786 and k7 processors (the reason Portage was conceived)
 
  


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