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teckk 03-21-2020 06:08 PM

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The rationale for Arch's lack of an installer escapes me and Arch users never explain it.
The answer is that they had one a few years back. But the "arch community" decided that they liked it better without one. The devs asked, anyone want to maintain an installer? And no one stepped up to claim it.

There have been scripts posted to automate the process, if you search the arch forum, but they quickly get kind of shot down. I think that there have even been aur packages made to automate it. I think that I recall a poll being taken a few years ago, and the vast majority of archers who answered the polls said no to an installer. So you can make one, but you're on your own.

I think that it's a matter of getting used to doing things the "insert distro here" way. And then it's a rolling release. You only have to install it once, then use the machine for 10 years. There are no re-installs needed.

The wiki does pack a lot in and you can miss something. If you are planning to install it, read the wiki first for a day and get in your head what you are going to do. It will install just like the wiki says.
Or...use something else.

The answer is that "They do not want any gui installers!"

m.a.l.'s pa 03-21-2020 09:38 PM

It really doesn't seem so bad to me, and I'm no expert Linux user. I've found that the easier-to-install Arch derivatives never really seem to satisfy me like an Arch installation done manually. The Anarchy installer comes close, and I might go that route again if I was pressed for time. But as teckk mentioned, you only have to install it once. The end result is worth the effort, IMO.

sevendogsbsd 03-21-2020 09:48 PM

Personally I find the install easy but then again I am a former Gentoo user. I normally have my own documentation that I keep updated so it’s easy to follow. The wiki install procedures are good but I hate clicking through to different sections so bring that info into a single list I use.

Geist 03-22-2020 12:22 AM

There's LARBS by Luke Smith. Never used it or arch, though, so I can't truly vouch for it, but, hey, might be worth a look.

BW-userx 03-22-2020 11:21 AM

every how to install ARCH on youtube I've ever seen there is a guy with two computers, one to install ARCH on, and the other to read the HOW TO install arch ... again it is a obsolete install method that they are using.

Even Slackware that came out in the 90's when Linux was first being introduced into the world has a iso to burn to a usb stick to be easily installed.

ARCH Linux came way later and they're using a type of install that only had to be used back in the 'day' because there was no other way to do it. the developer, to me must just think it's the coolest thing since slice bread to do.

Basslord1124 03-24-2020 08:23 PM

I have very little experience with Arch's installer. I tried it once and then rebooted the computer thinking maybe there was an error or something. I didn't do any prior research to installation...just downloaded and gave it a try. It was then I changed my mind that it wasn't the right time to try it. I don't mind to tinker but I wanted something to get me up faster at that moment.

Perhaps later down the road I'll give it a try again.

To me Slackware and Debian have been the more complex installs I have done and I wouldn't say they were hard...just a little more time consuming.

ondoho 03-26-2020 12:39 AM

^ Basslord, there's no such thing as "Arch's Installer". Maybe that's why it failed...


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