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05-08-2018, 01:05 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Belgrade, Yugoslavia
Distribution: Debian stable/testing, amd64
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32bit
seems many well known distros now require 64bit, dammit.
(and they had been saying, like, oooh 64bit offer no speed improvement or anything compared to 32bit, yeah right.)
I have an older CPU, it runs 64bit host OS fine, but VBox can't run 64bit guests.
Can you please recommend a fast lightweight 32bit distro with nice support?
thank you.
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05-08-2018, 02:10 AM
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4MLinux Maintainer
Registered: Oct 2010
Location: Poland
Distribution: 4MLinux, Slackware
Posts: 1,289
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05-08-2018, 03:17 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2011
Location: Upper Hale, Surrey/Hants Border, UK
Distribution: One main distro, & some smaller ones casually.
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05-08-2018, 11:38 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: London
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, Salix
Posts: 6,257
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Debian has 32-bit, but Gnome is hardly suitable for an older CPU. I tried installing one of the non-standard Debian versions the other day: no live session of course, and the installer had a bug that was only revealed half-way through the installation.
I presume you'll want support for both Latin and Cyrillic, in which case don't use AntiX: it's not happy with multiple keyboard drivers.
Try Mint: you can't go far wrong with that.
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05-08-2018, 04:07 PM
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antiX
Registered: May 2005
Location: Greece
Distribution: antiX using herbstluftwm, fluxbox, IceWM and jwm.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidMcCann
I presume you'll want support for both Latin and Cyrillic, in which case don't use AntiX: it's not happy with multiple keyboard drivers.
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This is not true. I use antiX with both Greek and English keyboard without issue.
Last edited by anticapitalista; 05-08-2018 at 04:09 PM.
Reason: added info
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05-09-2018, 11:52 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: London
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, Salix
Posts: 6,257
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anticapitalista
This is not true. I use antiX with both Greek and English keyboard without issue.
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Perhaps I was a little unfair. Setting up multiple keyboard drivers was not actually a problem. But, having three keyboard drivers, I needed an indicator on the panel to see what I was doing. That fell out badly with Icewm and I ended up with a corrupted system that I couldn't fix. I then tried to install Xfce, only to find that you now have a separate version to the standard Debian one. That only allowed me to log in as root and my query about this on your forum was unsolved. Naturally, I was left a little less enthusiastic about AntiX than I used to be!
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05-09-2018, 01:42 PM
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antiX
Registered: May 2005
Location: Greece
Distribution: antiX using herbstluftwm, fluxbox, IceWM and jwm.
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You have made another mistake. antiX does not have a different Xfce. If users install Xfce on antiX, they get it from the default Debian repos.
The only Xfce debs we have are the ones in this repo - to remove systemd/libsystemd0 dependencies. ie only xfce4-power-manager
http://repo.antixlinux.com/stretch/pool/nosystemd/x/
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05-10-2018, 12:17 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: London
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, Salix
Posts: 6,257
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We're getting off-topic here, but your forum adminstrator rokytnji asked me "How did you install XFCE. Did you use the package installer in the antix control center? If you used synaptic package manager. No wonder it is screwed up." And whether the Xfce package was tweaked or vanilla Debian, the fact remain that it was broken and no-one at antixforum could solve that.
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05-11-2018, 02:08 PM
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LQ Guru
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Your XFCE experience must have been something awry with the XFCE package.
I've been using AntiX for several years without any problems like that, so I think you were just unlucky on that one occasion.
But back to the subject of this thread, there is a 32bit version readily available & used by many people quite happily. 
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05-11-2018, 03:32 PM
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Moderator
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 22,361
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"it runs 64bit host OS fine, but VBox can't run 64bit guests"
I think you should be able to run 64 bit vm clients.
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05-11-2018, 09:48 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2017
Location: @127.0.0.1
Distribution: Mint, Void, MX, Haiku, PMOS, Plasma Mobile, and many others
Posts: 1,258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jefro
"it runs 64bit host OS fine, but VBox can't run 64bit guests"
I think you should be able to run 64 bit vm clients.
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Correct. @OP do you have virtualization technology turned on in your bios/UEFI settings?
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05-12-2018, 05:42 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Belgrade, Yugoslavia
Distribution: Debian stable/testing, amd64
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bios doesn't have that option, its quite old.
dunno if its motherboard or cpu or both, but i'm sure it can't run 64bit guests.
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05-12-2018, 06:13 AM
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Moderator
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 26,856
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Quote:
VirtualBox supports 64-bit guest operating systems, even on 32-bit host operating systems,[10] provided that the following conditions are met:
You need a 64-bit processor with hardware virtualization support (see Section 10.3, “Hardware vs. software virtualization”).
You must enable hardware virtualization for the particular VM for which you want 64-bit support; software virtualization is not supported for 64-bit VMs.
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If your motherboard does not support hardware virtualization then you can not run 64 bit guests.
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html
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05-12-2018, 06:59 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Pictland
Distribution: Linux Mint 21 MATE
Posts: 8,048
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To test if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation:
Code:
egrep "(svm|vmx)" /proc/cpuinfo
If either of these is found, it does.
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05-14-2018, 04:02 AM
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Member
Registered: Oct 2014
Posts: 961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qrange
Can you please recommend a fast lightweight 32bit distro with nice support?
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Tried BSD? Chances are you won't notice any difference in your daily work.
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