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06-13-2016, 10:20 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Apr 2016
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32 or 64?
stupid question:
im setting up a multi os quickie want live variant (like live cd) on there with installers so i can run whatever i like also want to get computer tools on it so i can use as needed
i know one is 64 bit should i just have 32 bit ones so works with anything? what will happen if i try to fun a 64 on a 32 bit system?
my 2 systems i have in mind right now:
system 1 (2 prevous owners complained slow i want serious oomph on it)
aspire v5 122p 0869
amd a4 dual core 1ghz
4 gig ram
500 gig hdd
system 2
hp zv6233nr
amd athalon 64 3200+
2ghz 512 kb l2 bus up to 20000 mhz
512 mb ram
100 gig hdd (want to upgrade/replace but ide so hunting there)
beyond those i dont know what ill have it on but id like as a good usability and such --so whatchall think/suggest? i have experience on jaunty but dont like current ubuntu look
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06-13-2016, 10:39 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu MATE, Mageia, and whatever VMs I happen to be playing with
Posts: 19,930
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A 64-bit OS will not run on a 32-bit system.
You can run a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit system, but the results will not be optimal. The harsh reality is that 32-bit architecture is slowly becoming an artifact of the past.
The best choice is to run an OS which matches the architecture of your hardware.
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06-13-2016, 10:42 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2015
Location: USA
Distribution: Lubuntu 14.04, 22.04, Windows 8.1 and 10
Posts: 6,282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biyu
i know one is 64 bit should i just have 32 bit ones so works with anything?
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Hi...
You can run a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit computer, no problem. I do this on my laptop. The one thing I would caution you on is that if you use Google Chrome for your browser, you will not be able to use the latest version. Google dropped support entirely for 32 bit Linux, so version 49, I believe, is the latest you can get. The current version is 51. Overall, I think 32 bit operating systems and software is slowly being phased out.
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Originally Posted by biyu
what will happen if i try to fun a 64 on a 32 bit system?
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Most likely, it simply wouldn't boot.
Regards...
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06-13-2016, 10:43 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Apr 2016
Posts: 9
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So have some of both? That's entirely possible for me to do
I honestly don't know if the first system is 64 or 32 it was shipped with 8 making me think 64 but the pathetic processor? I really don't know --that's why I included specs I know
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06-13-2016, 10:45 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Lawrence, New Zealand
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,077
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If you are asking whether you should go 32 bit or 64 bit on a live boot disc, I vote 32 bit. From experience, there's nothing as frustrating as having, for instance, Slax on a thumbdrive, and trying to boot a random computer only to find that it is 32 bit only (and as frankbell said, you can't run 64 on 32, but you CAN run 32 on 64).
For that reason, I keep x32 Slax on my keyring, and it truly never lets me down.
But you also say a "multi boot", which makes me think that maybe you are throwing several different options onto the same disk/drive. In that case, why not give yourself both choices?
I highly recommend Slax, but there are several other live boot distros.
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06-13-2016, 10:45 PM
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Registered: Apr 2016
Posts: 9
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Luckily I use Firefox as my browser but I have a chromium install or 2 to try on that first system --the 2nd I'll do Linux but I don't know which yet will take time to see what I like most on there
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06-13-2016, 10:51 PM
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Registered: Apr 2016
Posts: 9
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I was told about unetbootin by a geek squad person was gonna try to put as much as I could get in the 32 gig drive from red hat (red drive my humour) to slack Ubuntu and its variants dsl puppy anything/everything some rescue softwares and that so I could keep it on me as needed so I can definitely keep some 32 with the 64 that will be fine by me
Funny: (to me) unetbootin runs fine on my win 10 but on my Mac refuses to connect to download anything but that I was on Starbucks wifi at the time shouldn't have mattered should it?
The 2 systems will just become "playthings" so I'm not overly concerned about them beyond they "work"
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06-13-2016, 10:53 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2015
Location: USA
Distribution: Lubuntu 14.04, 22.04, Windows 8.1 and 10
Posts: 6,282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biyu
I honestly don't know if the first system is 64 or 32 it was shipped with 8 making me think 64 but the pathetic processor? I really don't know --that's why I included specs I know
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Hi...
If it came with pre-installed with Windows 8, most likely it's 64 bit.
Regards...
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06-13-2016, 10:55 PM
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Moderator
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Arizona, USA
Distribution: Debian, EndeavourOS, OpenSUSE, KDE Neon
Posts: 4,030
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Both systems are capable of running 64-bit. AMD hasn't made a 32-bit only processor in around 10 years. All APU's (A4/A6/A8/A10) are 64-bit native.
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06-13-2016, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ardvark71
Hi...
If it came with pre-installed with Windows 8, most likely it's 64 bit.
Regards...
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And why would they ship one that's so slow my baby an 07 vista ran better then it? (Pretty sure a 64) to me it's stupid speced which makes me think chromebook it that will be fun lol --but if it won't go I'll do something else I don't want 10 on it so I have 2 months to work it out
Thankies
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06-13-2016, 11:01 PM
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Moderator
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Arizona, USA
Distribution: Debian, EndeavourOS, OpenSUSE, KDE Neon
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The A4's are the budget level AMD APU's. They're meant for very low power, inexpensive, usually passively cooled devices. Basically competing with the Atom/lower Celerons. At this they do a great job, but they're never going to be incredibly powerful as that's simply not what they're meant for.
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06-13-2016, 11:04 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2015
Location: USA
Distribution: Lubuntu 14.04, 22.04, Windows 8.1 and 10
Posts: 6,282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biyu
And why would they ship one that's so slow my baby an 07 vista ran better then it?
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Hi...
That's a good question that you would need to ask the manufacturer of the computer. (Timothy Miller's answer is better.) However, it is 64 bit, please see here.
Regards...
Last edited by ardvark71; 06-13-2016 at 11:06 PM.
Reason: Changed information.
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06-13-2016, 11:04 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Apr 2016
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*nods* my baby was 2 gig duo and amd like I said from 07 so something not right like going backwards but I'll get something on it going well at some point
Thankies
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06-17-2016, 09:28 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jul 2011
Location: California
Distribution: Slackware64-15.0 Multilib
Posts: 6,564
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If you can use 64-bit, use it. There's very little point to using 32-bit except for a few scarce packages that still use 32-bit, but those are few and far between.
I personally use a pure 64-bit system with no 32-bit compatibility packages.
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