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Old 04-16-2010, 02:18 PM   #1
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Why is KDE the only Qt Desktop Environment??


I was wondering why is there only KDE for a Qt desktop environment?
Wouldn't Qt be much better for lightweight desktops? Maybe i have just not come across any other alternatives that use Qt, if so please post =]
I would really like to see a good lightweight DE that uses Qt, well because i hate KDE.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 02:47 PM   #2
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I'm not sure why the end user would care whether an app uses QT, GTK, or some other toolkit....

Have you researched what is used by?:
XFCE
LXDE
Fluxbox and all the other *boxes
Window Maker
IceWM
 
Old 04-16-2010, 03:12 PM   #3
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Wouldn't Qt be much better for lightweight desktops?
I don't know, my impression was that Qt is more heavyweight than most other toolkits.

I mean it's basically a huge cross-platform-do-it-all library that handles file I/O, networking, GUIs, and much more.

But toolkits like GTK+ are just GUI toolkits, nothing more.

Also GTK+ is much more easily hackable and themeable than Qt.

And another thing might be that the open source-ness of Qt is a bit debatable.

EDIT: And another thing is that Qt is written in basically it's own hacked-up version of C++, and it requires lots of special dev tools.

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I'm not sure why the end user would care whether an app uses QT, GTK, or some other toolkit....

Have you researched what is used by?:
XFCE
LXDE
Fluxbox and all the other *boxes
Window Maker
IceWM
I don't see why not. majority of Qt applications you have to pull in KDE along with it, and that's a whole world of hurt if you want to keep everything minimal.

From the top of my head i think its like this
GTK:
XFCE
LXDE

No Toolkit specific:

Window Maker
IceWM
Fluxbox etc..
 
Old 04-16-2010, 03:21 PM   #5
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Did you read my post?
 
Old 04-16-2010, 04:10 PM   #6
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I think Qt now is full open source under GPL and also has a propriety license for commercial closed source use.

I find the Qt, API nicer and the themes in Qt much cleaner. For me at least GTK always looks out dated.
 
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well seeing as trolltech only recently released a version of QT as open .

remember kde 2 we had to use an illegal copy of qt !
 
Old 04-16-2010, 04:39 PM   #8
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Exactly, QT has only recently been open sourced. do you expect the whole world to just swap over because you like it ?
How many man hours have been spent doing things that IMHO are just as good ?

PS. I don't like KDE and never have. I don't actually like gnome either, but it's better than KDE. (since 1997)
 
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I liked KDE3, but thought KDE4 was a total and utter disaster.

Now I don't use any desktop environment, just Openbox, and whatever GUI applications I like, whether they use Qt, GTK, or whatever other toolkit.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 05:56 PM   #10
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wasn't it with 4.0 they had full GPL, and that was in 2005.
And wasn't it open source for linux before that but not windows, trolltech saying windows was not an open source software platform and wouldn't put it under GPL?

Hell im not saying everything must change because i want it that way; but where there is one there must be others. I was just putting it out there why haven't people done the Qt route besides KDE.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 06:25 PM   #11
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QT wasn't open source on linux. You could use it as a user, but you couldn't create anything unless you paid licensing fees.

You may as well ask why everybody doesn't use .net
 
Old 04-17-2010, 11:08 PM   #12
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qlwm, antico, antico deluxe

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Old 04-18-2010, 06:01 AM   #13
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So much misinformation it is mind boggling.
 
Old 04-18-2010, 08:25 AM   #14
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So much misinformation it is mind boggling.
What exactly are you referring to? This thread has some factual info and some speculation. What is it that you think is incorrect?
 
Old 04-18-2010, 08:37 AM   #15
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Define "recently" lol

I don't consider 7 plus years as "recent".

Then idiotic comments like "You may as well ask why everybody doesn't use .net"
 
  


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