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Old 05-10-2017, 11:35 AM   #1
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Hey guys I have a newer Acer all in one desktop gave W10 the last try was thinking on daul booting Linux Mint 18.1 and Ubuntu 16.04 can't decide which distro like them both do I and will I still be secure if I disable UEFI in bio sorry for the dumb question couldn't finf the answer online about UEFI
 
Old 05-10-2017, 02:44 PM   #2
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Ubuntu LTS has support for some uefi systems already. Other distro's may too.

First you need to create a way to restore W10 should you want to return to it. Consider a free virtual machine before using dual boot also.

If you make a uefi aware and supported media then boot to it, you should be able to install linux on that system. However there are a lot of issues going on here.

Booting to Ubuntu should provide you at least a clue to if it will work. On a dvd the boot option may show up as a uefi cd choice but there are countless ways it could end up working or not working.
 
Old 05-10-2017, 03:46 PM   #3
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Take a look at the official Ubuntu documentation at the link below on dual booting windows/Ubuntu UEFI before you begin.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

One thing to pay special attention to is that if you use UEFI/GPT with windows, you need to do the same with your Linux or you will have problems booting. Also that as far as I know, to use windows with GPT you must use UEFI.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 09:10 AM   #4
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Can the same be applied to Linux Mint 18 XFCE on an Acer ES1-531 laptop? Just wondering. Although, I'm probably not going to dual-boot but instead single-boot, if it's too much hassle I'll just use EFI.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 11:38 AM   #5
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Mint will certainly install on a uefi machine. Just make sure you have secure boot and fastboot switched off.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 02:41 PM   #6
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You never know about the ability that the OEM put into the UEFI.

UEFI and EFI and secure boot are usually different things.

I assume these tips are true. https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sarah_cinnamon.php

Last edited by jefro; 05-25-2017 at 02:26 PM.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 03:58 PM   #7
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Okay. I'll check it out tomorrow and see what happens. ^^
 
Old 05-24-2017, 05:14 AM   #8
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Some more research on this option - use the windows boot loader - may be safer option for some people.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...ws_boot_loader

Biggest question really is if all distro's will allow itself to be installed this way. Ms agreed to allow dual booting years ago as the result of a court case. As a result the facility is still likely to be there. It's hardly ever mentioned though. It aught to be and distro's should be able to cope with it.

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Ubuntu LTS ought to install correctly with UEFI and secure boot enabled by the way.

You also have a choice to run a free virtual machine if you don't wish to bork your W10.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 02:48 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by gordie1969 View Post
Hey guys I have a newer Acer all in one desktop gave W10 the last try was thinking on daul booting Linux Mint 18.1 and Ubuntu 16.04 can't decide which distro like them both do I and will I still be secure if I disable UEFI in bio sorry for the dumb question couldn't finf the answer online about UEFI
W10 does not work without UEFI
If you use Legacy, forget W10.

I bought too a new Acer, I installed W8 and load Linux from Grub.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 02:36 PM   #11
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It is possible on newer systems that you can get windows to run in secure and uefi and also dual boot to a legacy mode linux. Ideally you'd want to simplify your life and make it all uefi secure boot. Many newish systems can easily be made to change modes and boot to a usb also. A fast usb 3.0 drive with linux on it is very useful for my uses.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 02:45 PM   #12
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It is possible on newer systems that you can get windows to run in secure and uefi and also dual boot to a legacy mode linux. Ideally you'd want to simplify your life and make it all uefi secure boot. Many newish systems can easily be made to change modes and boot to a usb also. A fast usb 3.0 drive with linux on it is very useful for my uses.
why not to boot grub directly from sd card, and you can keep win10.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 04:17 PM   #13
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W10 does not work without UEFI
If you use Legacy, forget W10.
Not true. Otherwise it wouldn't be much fun for all those with legacy non-UEFI systems who upgraded to Windows 10.

As long as you boot non-UEFI when installing Windows 10, it doesn't need UEFI.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/win...gacy-bios-mode
 
Old 05-26-2017, 06:29 PM   #14
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Quote:
W10 does not work without UEFI
Yes it does. I have windows 10 installed on an MBR Desktop (2009 HP) with no UEFI available and just used the custom option during install.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 07:03 PM   #15
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