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Old 12-15-2015, 06:16 PM   #1
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Mint 17.2 Long boot up time


Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H mobo
Trinity AMD A6-5400K 3.6Ghz APU
2 x 4Gb sticks of RAM

The install was a breeze, did have to install a video driver, although it appeared to work without it. The boot up time seems to be a bit boringly long - otherwise I can not fault the performance.

My aim was to build a computer that was capable of running XP pro so I could use my Labcenter 32 bit PCB cad program, hence sticking to a Trinity APU that would run XP..... I was hoping to try Wine I think it's called, hoping it will allow me to install the software, this is not my concern right now, just that the boot time is disconcerting, is there anything can be done to improve this? thanks, Dave.
 
Old 12-15-2015, 06:27 PM   #2
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Hi Dave...

Welcome to the forum

I'm not sure I'll have an answer for you but for those members who might, please open a terminal and post the entire results of...

Code:
dmesg
This might give an indication or clue as to what's going on.

Regards...

Last edited by ardvark71; 12-15-2015 at 09:12 PM. Reason: Added information.
 
Old 12-15-2015, 07:10 PM   #3
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Slow 5400 RPM hard drive?
 
Old 12-15-2015, 09:20 PM   #4
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Slow 5400 RPM hard drive?
Yep. My ssd AntiX install on a I5 8 gig ram laptop boots in seconds to slim login. I prefer a login vs a auto login machine.

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Old 12-16-2015, 06:35 AM   #5
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Oooops sorry I use a Western Digital 250Gb Blue ' 7200 rpm spinner' not a SSD sorry for that. The Mint logo seems on for some while too..... I was toying with giving SSD's a try though, I always keep a drive as a storage and external one as a clone, whether I can do that with Linux, guess I'll find out sooner or later.

I did install Wine and wow, it runs my XP32 bit PCB cad programs... well, better than XP it seems, the only thing Linux is new to me.

Right now I'm on the XP machine so I'll post the dmsg file later, sorry for any inconvenience at this point of time I've only one monitor, it was this file I was looking at last night but made no sense to me since Linux is new territory here..... certainly seems performing like greased lightening, the logging off is pretty nifty.

Doesn't Mint do a drive scan for some protection or something, maybe this is the reason.

I use auto login because 'Er indoors' uses it once in a while, I can appreciate SSD's are much faster rokytnji, I do agree SSD's are the way to go, no motor spin up time, no mechanical reading and writing head etc.

Last but not least, thanks for the welcome and the replies, I'll report back with that file I was looking at last night.

Dave
 
Old 12-16-2015, 06:46 AM   #6
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You need to see the messages while booting as it may indicate where the problem lies - not sure the simplest way to do that with Mint. Maybe edit the grub boot line and remove "quiet splash". AMDs can be grumpy, I have an A-10 and it took some time to get it running right. Mine was delaying for 10-12 seconds on boot with a "VCE not responding" error, I fixed it by adding the missing tahiti_vce.bin in etc/radeon/firmware.

I use a 250GB 7200 RPM test drive myself so I don't think that's the problem...

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Old 12-16-2015, 08:07 AM   #7
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Here is the edit
mentioned by NGIB.

Just some more info for a Mint new user

https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/tips
 
Old 12-16-2015, 03:23 PM   #8
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Here is the dmesg file-:

: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 1.476637] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[ 1.476641] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[ 1.476809] sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[ 1.476896] sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
[ 1.498247] sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
[ 1.498697] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[ 1.579792] usb 4-4: New USB device found, idVendor=1a2c, idProduct=0b23
[ 1.579796] usb 4-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 1.579798] usb 4-4: Product: USB Keyboard
[ 1.579799] usb 4-4: Manufacturer: USB
[ 1.584883] hidraw: raw HID events driver (C) Jiri Kosina
[ 1.597138] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[ 1.597141] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[ 1.598668] input: USB USB Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb4/4-4/4-4:1.0/0003:1A2C:0B23.0001/input/input6
[ 1.598765] hid-generic 0003:1A2C:0B23.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [USB USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:13.0-4/input0
[ 1.599031] input: USB USB Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb4/4-4/4-4:1.1/0003:1A2C:0B23.0002/input/input7
[ 1.599229] hid-generic 0003:1A2C:0B23.0002: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:13.0-4/input1
[ 1.646654] tsc: Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 3593.465 MHz
[ 1.842803] usb 4-5: new low-speed USB device number 3 using ohci-pci
[ 2.010949] usb 4-5: New USB device found, idVendor=1c4f, idProduct=0034
[ 2.010952] usb 4-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 2.010954] usb 4-5: Product: Usb Mouse
[ 2.010955] usb 4-5: Manufacturer: SIGMACHIP
[ 2.018231] input: SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb4/4-5/4-5:1.0/0003:1C4F:0034.0003/input/input8
[ 2.018378] hid-generic 0003:1C4F:0034.0003: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse] on usb-0000:00:13.0-5/input0
[ 2.646964] Switched to clocksource tsc
[ 4.174730] usb 4-5: USB disconnect, device number 3
[ 4.855200] usb 4-5: new low-speed USB device number 4 using ohci-pci
[ 5.023350] usb 4-5: New USB device found, idVendor=1c4f, idProduct=0034
[ 5.023353] usb 4-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 5.023355] usb 4-5: Product: Usb Mouse
[ 5.023357] usb 4-5: Manufacturer: SIGMACHIP
[ 5.030670] input: SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb4/4-5/4-5:1.0/0003:1C4F:0034.0004/input/input9
[ 5.030806] hid-generic 0003:1C4F:0034.0004: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse] on usb-0000:00:13.0-5/input0
[ 5.758115] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
[ 5.878862] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[ 14.738356] Adding 7540732k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:7540732k FS
[ 15.399955] systemd-udevd[376]: starting version 204
[ 15.489189] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[ 15.497110] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 15.570589] AMD IOMMUv2 driver by Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
[ 15.570592] AMD IOMMUv2 functionality not available on this system
[ 15.572388] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
[ 15.659606] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:01.1: Force to non-snoop mode
[ 15.659645] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:01.1: irq 49 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 15.668370] piix4_smbus 0000:00:14.0: SMBus Host Controller at 0xb00, revision 0
[ 15.668454] piix4_smbus 0000:00:14.0: Auxiliary SMBus Host Controller at 0xb20
[ 15.682826] input: HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.1/sound/card0/input10
[ 15.690423] sound hdaudioC1D0: autoconfig: line_outs=3 (0x14/0x15/0x16/0x0/0x0) type:line
[ 15.690428] sound hdaudioC1D0: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 15.690431] sound hdaudioC1D0: hp_outs=1 (0x1b/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 15.690433] sound hdaudioC1D0: mono: mono_out=0x0
[ 15.690434] sound hdaudioC1D0: dig-out=0x11/0x1e
[ 15.690436] sound hdaudioC1D0: inputs:
[ 15.690439] sound hdaudioC1D0: Front Mic=0x19
[ 15.690441] sound hdaudioC1D0: Rear Mic=0x18
[ 15.690443] sound hdaudioC1D0: Line=0x1a
[ 15.715768] input: HD-Audio Generic Front Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input11
[ 15.715885] input: HD-Audio Generic Rear Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input12
[ 15.716072] input: HD-Audio Generic Line as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input13
[ 15.716206] input: HD-Audio Generic Line Out Front as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input14
[ 15.716321] input: HD-Audio Generic Line Out Surround as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input15
[ 15.716435] input: HD-Audio Generic Line Out CLFE as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input16
[ 15.716582] input: HD-Audio Generic Front Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1/input17
[ 15.739044] AVX version of gcm_enc/dec engaged.
[ 15.802450] kvm: Nested Virtualization enabled
[ 15.802454] kvm: Nested Paging enabled
[ 15.898417] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.7.0 loaded
[ 17.268699] fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[ 17.268703] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[ 17.275843] fglrx: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[ 17.288792] <6>[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 6880 MBytes.
[ 17.288923] <6>[fglrx] vendor: 1002 device: 9991 revision: 0 count: 1
[ 17.289307] <6>[fglrx] ioport: bar 1, base 0xf000, size: 0x100
[ 17.289787] <6>[fglrx] Kernel PAT support is enabled
[ 17.289809] <6>[fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 15.20.2 [Feb 27 2015] with 1 minors
[ 18.964100] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[ 19.521421] init: failsafe main process (712) killed by TERM signal
[ 20.561434] init: cups main process (814) killed by HUP signal
[ 20.561446] init: cups main process ended, respawning
[ 20.654462] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.19
[ 20.654480] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[ 20.654482] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 20.654489] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 20.654492] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 20.654502] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 20.660859] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 20.660868] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 20.660874] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[ 20.695602] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 20.695605] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 20.695613] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[ 22.039415] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link down
[ 22.039486] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 22.661869] init: samba-ad-dc main process (917) terminated with status 1
[ 24.779206] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning
[ 24.785887] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process (1210) terminated with status 1
[ 24.785899] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning
[ 26.419511] fglrx_pci 0000:00:01.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 26.420665] <6>[fglrx] Firegl kernel thread PID: 1233
[ 26.420751] <6>[fglrx] Firegl kernel thread PID: 1234
[ 26.420831] <6>[fglrx] Firegl kernel thread PID: 1235
[ 26.420933] <6>[fglrx] IRQ 50 Enabled
[ 26.426173] <6>[fglrx] Reserved FB block: Shared offset:0, size:1000000
[ 26.426176] <6>[fglrx] Reserved FB block: Unshared offset:fab4000, size:4000
[ 26.426177] <6>[fglrx] Reserved FB block: Unshared offset:fab8000, size:548000
[ 26.426179] <6>[fglrx] Reserved FB block: Unshared offset:2ffed000, size:13000
[ 28.525524] <6>[fglrx] ATIF platform detected with notification ID: 0x81
[ 29.353520] usb 4-5: USB disconnect, device number 4
[ 30.038541] usb 4-5: new low-speed USB device number 5 using ohci-pci
[ 30.206639] usb 4-5: New USB device found, idVendor=1c4f, idProduct=0034
[ 30.206644] usb 4-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 30.206646] usb 4-5: Product: Usb Mouse
[ 30.206648] usb 4-5: Manufacturer: SIGMACHIP
[ 30.213908] input: SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb4/4-5/4-5:1.0/0003:1C4F:0034.0005/input/input18
[ 30.214168] hid-generic 0003:1C4F:0034.0005: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse] on usb-0000:00:13.0-5/input0
[ 33.890454] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (2249) terminated with status 1
[ 131.098119] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link up
[ 131.098135] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[ 132.117982] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link down
[ 244.080511] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link up
[ 245.460686] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link down
[ 309.407718] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link up
[ 309.721669] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link down
[ 314.190955] r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: link up
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Sorry for the delay. Dave
 
Old 12-19-2015, 01:49 PM   #9
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Ideally you should disable splash quiet in grub2 so you can watch the messages in real time. New Mint employs systemd as an init system and I have seen it choke when a service doesn't start properly and it tries to respawn to fix that whole parallel problem. Thankfully for me that has only happened on a couple of distros I installed specifically to try out systemd. To be complete as well as honest, while I really have problems with systemd, for the most part I don't notice it is there, at least once fully booted up. My main, Slackware, thankfully did not cave into the systemd pressure and I prefer that, but the only issue I have seen, other than the loss of simple text logs, has been this boot issue and that only on some hardware.

Once you can actually see the boot process you can see where it hangs. Once you know that, it is fixable.
 
Old 12-20-2015, 09:03 AM   #10
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Stumped!!!!!
Dunno where to look, dunno what to look for, think I'd better revert back to windows.

Also the Apps. running under Wine does not open to full windows, for the PCB cad graphics I had to install Windows Fonts.

Dave
 
Old 12-20-2015, 09:16 AM   #11
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Stumped!!!!!
Dunno where to look, dunno what to look for
Run:
Code:
# Initial analysis of boot process (also see bootchart)
sudo systemd-analyze
# Textual representation, or ..
sudo systemd-analyze blame
# .. a SVG image you can open in a web browser or image viewer:
sudo systemd-analyze plot > /tmp/plot.svg
 
  


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